[URL]http://www.zerogain.com/forum/showpost.php?p=210974&postcount=47[/URL] I'm putting in this link for the genleman who has just joined us, in case its of interest to him. its my system...there are those who say I have gone OTT with the vibration controil :D it is certainly open to improvement (but then Rome wasn't built in a day! ) :) David