new living voice prototype horns

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    Romy The Cat

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    Then why you ask a foolish question if I aligned them?

    Well, all that say is that when, a perhaps another 100 people, discover and define for yourself what audio colorations are then some things might clear for you. I do not mean to be overly snobby; I just say what it is. The subject of coloration is not as simple as you think.

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    Does anyone read Viz?

    'Mr Logic' springs to mind
     
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    I disagree. Mr Logic was generally correct.
     
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    Stereo Mic

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    The main reason for aligning horns with mouths one in front of each other, indeed the only one, is to make sure the compression drivers' acoustic centres are time aligned with each other thereby avoiding phase issues at the crossover point.

    By the looks of the photographs, you have neither achieved this, nor avoided ruinous diffractions. Remarkable. And yet you have the temerity to come onto this forum at cast aspersions on the Living Voice designs. I give you credit for your bottle Romy.
     
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    It's more the strap-line that followed his name

    i.e. 'Mr Logic, He's a .....................................'

    And his (in my mind) tone of voice.

    Anyway, I'd better not carry on or I'll offend somebody. I'll let the thread resume its course. Those horns all look mint and I would have some if I had the money and didn't live in a shoe box (not literally Romy)
     
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    Romy The Cat

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    I appreciate your explanations. A half freaking site, with hundreds posts desiccated to the subject of time alignment. So, I might only proposed that if you have a limited experiences then before passing your shallow judgment try to get that just looking at pictures do not do any good for you. Try reading a text, and learn to appreciate the meaning of letters, words and sentences. Who knows, perhaps if people have written something next to the pictures then they have something behind the expressed thoughts. In the end, I still have no idea what you luck of understanding the Macondo basic principles has to do with my specific comments about the Living Voice design? Stereo Mic, I think it will be worth for you to take a little time out in this conversation, it you do not then I will, at least with you.

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    Stereo Mic

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    No you'll have to do better than that Romy.

    Have you time aligned anything or is the array simply for show? Why have you not treated diffractions? Are you just denying their presence? Have you accounted for the time smear of your bass units. Hell, even your coils on the lower mid horn will be interacting like crazy. How "serious about sound" can you be if you don't even make cursory measurements to confirm that you are not massively compromising your replay?

    You entered this discussion by criticising the Living Voice based on a photograph. You now argue with others doing the same to you. And you are unable to come up with any objective reasoning to support your argument. Unless you have anything meaningful to add, I would suggest you do take a break.
     
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    Romy The Cat

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    Keith, this is one of the few most ?kinkiest? part: to pile up the freaking horns play with them all necessary for them vertical ballet (BTW I degree with ?Living Voice? who offset the tweeters in horizontal panel) and at the same time, to be able to integrate the drivers at nearfield. It is very-very difficult, particularly pursuing all other aspects of loudspeaker performance. OK, let kiss my own ass for a chance: do you know that 107-inch tall Injected Macondo can play integrated and do not go over the pieces from ?.107 inches (from the diaphragms!!!)? I had some people who were freaked out because it even looks scare but sound perfectly ?compiled??

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    Stereo Mic

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    Despite the phase issues, diffraction, bass lag........

    Sorry:) I've keep schtum:D

    Carry on Keith. Are you impressed with Romy's horn yet?
     
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    Romy if funds and time were unlimited , would you change anything about the Macando's?
     
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    Purite Audio Purite Audio

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    Mike he is now a broken man.
     
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    Stereo Mic

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    Broken record maybe.

    Do we know anyone who's actually heard them? I know Romy is "sadly banned" from nearly every internet forum originating on earth bound cyberspace - something I aspire to.
     
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    Romy The Cat

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    I think I have spent more time on you then I had to. If you little bit smart up and go less hysterical then spend a few weeks or reading my site (horns sections) and if after it your indicate any signs of subject-intelligence then I promise you do not disregard you. For now, it is to boring to obverse your frustrations. So, let end up with the mutual agreement that Living Voice is a belie-button of universe that I?m a brainless idiot and you are the Fieldmartial OK? So, let stop on it because I might stop to play a nice *****. It?s it. The lights up! Go to the elementary school.

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    Stereo Mic

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    And still, not a hint of being able to back up his assertions scientifically,empirically, or even humorously.

    Oh I don't know. Maybe that was a Bostonian alien's attempt at humour?
     
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    Romy The Cat

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    In my case the funds and time are unlimited as is, 8 years? Still, sure, I would change a lot but not because the time and funds. I was talking about it in past. You see, Macondo is not the specific built acoustic system but rather a compilation of design objectives and methods. Under different conditions it would be a slightly different speaker. Still, it is not the thread about Macondo and my speakers was brought to the attentions but the indomitable fools who wiling to run empty mouth about anything. I think each forum has those yahoos.

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    Please don't talk about subject intelligence with grammar and spelling like that.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Romy The Cat

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    And since then the ?subject intelligence? begin measured via the spelling in the language that YOU accidentally happen to know?

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    Now that we are onto spelling and 'grammar time' I don't feel bad as this is probably pretty derailed anyway.

    Is there an area I can post a scanned page of the cartoon 'Mr Logic'?

    If nobody objects I could put it on this thread.
     
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    Guys, just filter out the superficialities of Romy's posts and they are actually intelligent and useful. It would be a shame to lose his presence here. Mike, could you please, for once, wind down the wind-up fun and games, not everyone shares your predilection.

    Romy - at what frequency do you cross over from bass tower to midbass horn, and what is the physical distance between the acoustic centers?
     
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    markus, the real problem here are not phase and time alignement and crossover frequencies but basic social skills, something that an every human should acquire in a very early age. audio forums are a public place too and i can imagine what would happen if someone in real life would perform a similar game of radicalism towards anyone who doesn't openly lick his a**. this guy may know a lot but also maybe not - those who have heard his speakers know the answer, i am certainly not interested in - and on the top what's the point of being humiliated for something as irrelevant as some minor tech details you won't anyway get, at least not for free, without a mental rape.
     
    anubisgrau, Jul 24, 2007
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