The closed mind is completely apparent no matter how you deny it. You have done no work on cases, I have and yet you insult my work with no knowledge, AND as well for the upteenth time yet again completely misinterpret what is relayed to you. Where have I critised your amps or any other amps. How do you know they would not perform better with some of this work behind them, you don't. You are predudiced and your mind is closed as you insult on principle from a position of complete lack of knowledge on the subject being explored.

There are many many parameter involved in amplifier design, we are exploring in this discussion just *one* of them. That is not *the* most important parameter, but *one* of them in my experience. I think 30 years of work on the subject would at least deserve some respect from a prat who hasn't even spent one minute on the exploration of this design characteristic. But who has continually insulted and played mind games. To what purpose? who are you trying to impress? or is your self esteem and arrogance so dominant you don't recognise it.

I welcome an explanation of your design experience in coming to your dismissive conclusions. I expect discussion lists to be a little like this, but this is crazy! Design an amplifier for me and prove me wrong, as I can easily prove me right. You only have to listen to a 1986 NVA v 2006 NVA and the only thing stopping the obvious would be a serious case of cloth ears. The circuit is the same, the voltages are the same, the objective design parameters the same. All you have in exchange for these facts is insults, predudice and a closed mind.

Richard