Objectivism vs Subjectivism

Folks,

Again and again we have these slagging matches between the self proclaimed Objectivists (who are really under the spell of the aneristic delusion - namely that everything can be ordered, catalogued and quantified and worse, that all that matters already is ordered, catalogued and quantified) and self proclaimed Subjectivists (who are really under the spell of the eristic delusion - namely that nothing can be ordered, catalogued and quantified).

Sadly sometimes the objectivists even attempt to pass themselves off as sceptics (which amuse the hell out of Hume).

Here is the real deal.

Objectivists are WRONG.
Subjectivists are WRONG.
Real Sceptics are never wrong but never right either.
Real Believers cannot be either right or wrong.

Only the illuminated appreciate that when the Demon Thesis meets the Demon Anti-Thesis either anihilation or Syn-Thesis must result. So, beat the rush.

Join the groing Ranks of Belietic SOBjectivists.

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Paul

 

The objectivism vs subjectivism debate only takes place because our traditional measurements are NOT OBJECTIVE as far as sound quality is concerned; or at the very least the targeted (traditional) measured performence is VERY far from what is actually desirable.

Everyone without exception (unless deaf) can recognize when reproduced sound is accurate or not (it's in the human nature). The problem is that the vast majority of us never have heard an accurate sound system and those who claim they did are almost always referring to systems with poor measured performance by traditional standards.

Since we are all humans the problem only can lay either on what can be built by ear or on the measurements we take to build what cannot.

And I'm only referring to it as a problem because WE ARE STILL NOT SATISFIED ENOUGH, otherwise we wouldn't be here talking about equipment, we would probably be discussing the musicians performances, their different music styles and interpretations... we would be left only with the MUSIC.

 

Oh for heaven's sake BD, Thorsten was trying to defuse the whole thing with a lighthearted look at the whole issue and you've gone and taken it seriously

Michael.

 

Michael,

You are right, I'm sorry! To be honest I didn't even bother to read 3DSonics' post...

It was the thread title that called my attention and made me wondering why oedipus, 3DSonics and me, we are all wrong but not completely...

To be continued on another thread then...