Hi 7_V, Quick question....did you used to design and make speakers with the assistance of person in Telford called Robin? If not, this will sound like a very stupid question, but I bumped into his ex the other week and I rememberd a discussion about speakers in Telford around 10 years ago(!!!) with somone who looked just like you (I only met you briefly at the recent show). Twas just one of those thoughts that jumped into my mind. ho hum. //lamboy