Pioneer Pl51 (questions)

Are these tt any good, can you get a cartridge for them now.

 

Its a PL-71 with a crappy arm as fitted to the PL-12D.

Usefull as motor / plinth / lid etc spares for a PL-71 but apart from that not much cop.

 

Re pioneer pl51 (questions)

Hi there, how often does the pl71 crop up and for how much, cheers ocean

 

Quite often on US ebay but very rarely anywhere else. A good one $300 - $400. Iffy or need repair jobs a lot cheaper, but there is a lot of expert help around on the web for repairs.

 

Re pioneer pl51 (questions)

Well ive just bought the pl 51 looks as new out the box im told, ive paid £90.00
for it, if it is as new i could use the top cover for my pl 71 when i get one and
maybe some other bits, i nearly went into credit for the wt amadaus, but just
cant justify the mark up on it, so after reading loads of posts ive opted to find
and buy the pl71 thanks for your help

 

Put something like a Grado in it and it will serve you in the meantime.

 

Re Pioneer Pl51 (questions)

Hi again thanks for your help, but im going to buy the cartridge and headshell
that i would put with the pl 71, sumico i think the headshell is called, the psu
headshell and cartridge is mono right, im not after mono, but what would you put
with the sumico denon 103 what do you think £200 price wise
ocean

 

Sorry you lost me about the mono thing. Sumiko / Denon 103 would be great with the PL-71 arm but not so good on the PL-51 arm.

 

Re pioneer pl 51 (questions)

sorry i mean a SPU like you and gromit have are they mono

 

The original ones were when they designed it.

But since then someone invented stereo and they modified the design to cater for it in 1958

 

My pre amp has a mono button.

Wonder if it'll catch on.

 

Re pioneer pl 51 (questions)

would the rega 200 arm fit onto the pl 51, ive a lathe at home so i could

make weights adjustments etc, would this be an improvment on the original.

 

PM speedysteve about fitting as he has both PL-71 arm and Rega R200, they have much in common.

And yes that arm will be infinitely superior to the PL-51 arm, which really is not much cop.

 

I had the pleasure of seeing the modified Pioneer arm at Steve's yesterday.
Looks 1st rate and sounds excellent.

Not many Pioneer arms around but the Rega models were sold in the uk by the truckload so its great to see that these can be transformed in this way.

 

Pioneer Pl 51 (questions)

Hi all ive now purchased a pl 71 from the usa so ill make

the best from both decks, im told that you can resolder a

pin for 240v or buy a maplin transformer, hope it gets

back in one piece, ive told the guy to srinkwrap the platter

to the base remove tonarm weight and pack outside the

tt lid and put a cable tie on the tone arm rest , use bubble

wrap and two boxes, fingers crossed.

 

Excellent, get chatting with Richard as he's had these thing in pieces and can best advise.

Not quite sure what you mean by 'shrink wrap the platter to the base' though.
Probably best to remove the platter and wrap it before placing it somewhere snug within the box. Assuming the platter lifts off - it does on the DDs I've used.

 

A light tap with a hammer on the spindle as you pull up the platter with the other hand will release it.

 

Re pioneer pl 51 (questions)

Hello again richard, my pl 71 should be on its way soon from the states its

missing its badge the one that states its a pl 71, would you have one to sell

also what cartridge would you recomend, my pre amp is avi these are the

specs

MM sensitivity 2.5mV

Impedance 47k

Distortion -100dB

Mc sensitivity 100uV

Impedance 100ohms

Distortion -80dB

thanks ocean

 

The PL-71 arm is good enough to track anything. It is medium mass so for things like Shure V15 use light weight SME type headshell, and for older carts like DL103 use a heavy Sumiko headshell. You can also order heavier counterweight in brass from speedy.steve.

I use the turntable for both MM and MC for test, development and dem purposes. For MM I use Decca London Super Gold (but mine has lost a channel at the moment so I am using my Shure M3D, also a very musical, if odd, cart) and for MC I use Ortofon SPU Gold.

Don't use a step down transformer, I have tried them, and even convinced myself a 50va was better than changing the internal taps, but it induces hum in the Decca so I changed voltage on the tag strip. There are two versions, one has a plug you rotate to change voltage, the other you have to rewire the tag strip.

 

Has the deck arrived?