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The thread has shown that AN EFFECT has taken place - a repeatable and consistent on command effect, the origins of which remain unknown. The key words there are "consistent" and "repeatable", whereas something like ghost hunting isn't.  Because the origins and source remain unknown, it's ridiculous therefore to assert that "faith" must be the only logical answer in the absence of a scientific explanation. Tut tut.  That word used in this context is being used purely in a derisory manner IMHO.


Disagreement would result from 2 persons being available in a situation/environment where each will have a different view of the conclusion.  Trolling by definition is where a person unilaterally barges in with incorrrect assumptions garnered from without that situation/environment so their contributions is both irrelevant and superfluous.


I have read words like "faith", "placebo", "experimenter expectation" and "delusional" throughout this entire thread and not one of them has been applicable or indeed relevant beyond the usual naysayer rhetoric.  I have also read of a charm that is worn around the neck as a substitute for this device, but in the absence of hard evidence as to how the device under review works, I fail to comprehend it's relevance to the matter in hand beyond derailing the thread. An objectivist view? Hardly. Trolling? You decide.


I resent words like "believer" being used because it infers some sort of "superiority" empowerment by the poster to win the debate by the back door when logic fails. You have serious doubts and sincere scepticism that the device works, that's fine by me and probably others too, but don't try and push your blinkered dogmas onto us by using such phrases as if we are errant naive children that need educating. 


I would hold far more respect for the "scientifically orientated" posters if they applied their collective wisdoms to eliminating what the device ISN'T or CAN'T be doing, which would advance the debate far more than spouting the predictable negative rhetoric and semantics.  No, I think their forte is simply to torpedo everything below the waterline because criticising others is a much easier option and does their ego an immense power of good in the process.


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