[b]Kef 103/4..a listening pleasure[/b] have had some time to finally listen to these since i picked them up in trade for a pair of kef c-45's and snell E/III. what a difference!! very sweet sound but at the same time a very much "there" sound. and i can retire my sub for the time being till i get something alot better as i could hear no difference with the sub being on or not. nice soundstage, good pinpointing of instruments. all in all a superb speaker. music used was vangelis/antartica....collective soul/self titled...al stewart/year of the cat...pink floyd/dsotm...rippingtons/black diamond. only thing i might try is to see how my adcom sounds in place of the crown power base 1.