Rooney and footballs rotten core

Rooney loses his rag against NI the other week, delivers a tirade of abuse at the ref and fellow players.
Rooney gets red carded for sarcastically applauding the ref at the weekend.
Rooney wins best young player award.
Anyone else think that maybe people should hold back on rewarding a player deeply flawed in his attitude?
After watching a summer of glorious sport played in such good spirits in the shape of the Ashes, the football season looks like a horror show in comparison. I've begun to look at it as non football fans often do....as a stage for overpaid yobs to demonstrate everything that is bad about sport played in the meanest spirit. I still think football is a great game but the cultures within it are rotten. Lets hope cricket continues on its rise and that kids look up to Flintoff and Pietersen as better role models than Rooney and co.

 

This is the worst thing that could have happened to Rooney - now he know that his behaviour doesnt matter. If someone like James Milner won then Rooney would have had to think twice.

 

It does seem that footballers today resemble spoilt children with all their attention-grabbling antics and theatrics. Best thing that ever happened to football was when Ellis picked up the ball and rugby football was born. Like cricket, it's largely played in good spirit, is uncompromisingly physical and a great team sport. No theatrical rolling around on the ground or temper tantrums either...

 

I agree entirely that Rooney should not have received this award. I also think that he should be dropped from the England team as a clear signal that his behaviour is unacceptable.

I believe that Rooney has the potential to be the greatest player England has produced for many years but he's in danger of burning up and not managing to stay the course.

However, let's judge footballers as individuals and not tar them all with the same brush. Some are thugs, many are foolish and easily led but there are also many who are modest individuals doing good work in the community. Not all desire to spend their entire time in the media spotlight.

 

football is rotten to the core at the moment. I use to love it, a season ticket holder at Blackburn (before and after they were famous) for many a year. These days I find myself enjoying rugby league much more, and watch the Wigan Warriors.

The problem is money. The wages being paid are an insult. Whilst I agree with Steve Dingle that its wrong to tar everyone with the same brush, its yonks since I saw a footballer do anything worth while round these parts. Most are half-brained idiots who have far more money than sense.

We also have to pay through the nose to watch the game. At Blackburn a Cat A game is £32 for a reasonable seat, and thats cheap! Put this in to perspective, I pay £13 to watch the Warriors. In Spain the average price at Real Madrid and Barca is £11 for an adult ticket. In Germany the top price is £14. In Italy its a similar story. In Oz the top Rugby League clubs (their no.1 sport) charge around $11 a game. I cant imagine US fans paying a fortune for their sports.

To finish it all off, the game as become very dull, 4-5-1 is the norm, no wingers as such, so boring.

 

Another overpaid yob unfortunately...on a slightly different note.....it made me and my son laugh a bit watching some Premier League stuff and seeing the one of the players rolling around in "agony"having fallen,just after watching the MotoGP at Brno,when John Hopkins got thrown off his bike,slid for a good distance and narrowly avoided being run over,before getting up,dusting himself off and racing the next morning.

 

Did anyone see the interview on Sky last night. He got asked a couple of reasonable questions about his recent behaviour. It was painful to watch his neanderthal responses, whole sentences are obviously something he is still working on, but then a 'minder' off screen was heard to tell the interviewer that that was enough of that and only 'positive' questions were going to be allowed from then on.

Also Ferguson has really lost the plot , as well as the BBC he is now refusing to talk to MUTV because they dared to criticise him!

Bob

 

I think Sugar had it about right when he said a large number of current players would probably be in prison if they weren't footballers.

The NI incident also showed how weak Beckham is as a captain - could you imagine Rooney giving a load of mouth back to Terry Butcher, Tony Adams or Stuart Pearce if they had told him off! I don't think Beckham conjurs up the same sort of respect as those old war horses did.

You've got to look at the mangers too - Sven is hardly going to give him a bollocking and, regrettably, his club manager is notorious for letting his players behave in whatever way they want on the pitch. Rooney would really have benefited from say Cloughie as a manager - how often did you see Forest players surround a ref or talk back? Cloughie simply wouldn't allow it.

Rooney is seriously talented but bordering on the neanderthal - worse than Gazza - at least he had a smile on his face half the time. I can see Rooney crashing and burning in the same way the Geordie genius did though.

Matt.

 

I'm afraid to me football seems to spend most of it's time bringing itself into disrepute!

Whilst I was down the gym the other week I caught a bit of a Bolton match (can't remember who it was against) which seemed to me to be 90 minutes of cynical brutality and cheating. The fact that there is a recognised offence of "simulation" is an appalling endightment in itself and as for the disgraceful attitude towards the refs, I'd like to see any of those mouthy louts do the job.

Football ? Don't get me started !

Jeff

 

Ditto the sentiment so far. Pretty much my first reaction to his award was "Oh no. Now he won't think he has any kind of problem". The guy obivously has anger managment problems and with regard to the NI game I almost laughed when Ian Wright said something along the lines of Rooneys behaviour being understandable because he was frustrated at not being involved in the game. Made me think of a 6 year old having a "mummy they won't let me play with them" tantrum.

I think it was very interesting to see that the public vote shunned Rooney completely and went for Christiano Ronaldo instead. Obviously has something to do with the fact that the majority of the public have a considerably higher IQ than your average footballer so won't condone his behaviour just because he has talent.

GTM

 

And Christiano Ronaldo has a good deal more talent than Rooney aswell.

Michael.

 

One of the problems is that the 'mature, adult reaction' to losing a game is probably "oh well, there's always next time" and "my opponents played well today". Unfortunately I doubt that you'd find many professional sportsmen, at the top level, with that sort of mature attitude. It's not just football either; think John McEnroe. Most of the top guys are always a little bit mad in that way and they probably need to be, too.

I'm guessing that you're not much of a football fan, Michael.

 

I watch the big competitions (World Cup, Euro, Champions League) but don't follow any national league, not even the Portuguese one.

My comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek but I do believe that 5 years down the line Ronaldo will still be a stunning player, one of the world's best whilst Rooney will either be burnt out and/or locked up somewhere for doing something thuggish.

Michael.

 

You're probably right but it would be very sad as he has the potential to be such a brilliant player.

Has anyone noticed that he looks the spit of Alfred E Neumann? What me worry?

Hey, don't look at me like that just because so many of you are too young to have had a real education.

 

That bloody referee at Doncaster, now he was rotten to the core. Cheated we was cheated

 

Same old City.
That Yasser was crap wasn't he?
Is Stephen Ireland a Willo Flood clone?

Bob

 

I had the misfortune to have struggled up to Doncaster through the M60 chaos yesterday, and can honestly say it was a bizarre occasion. The referee was determined to level the playing field but we shot ourselves in the foot. Yassar shows a lot of promise I think, but he can't mix it physically. At least he was looking to be involved though. Thatcher and Sun were dire, Vassell spent most of the night running in circles looking for someone to pass to, and Sibierski was just awful. Ireland looks really good, he can spot a pass, and he's quick, could be good with Barton. Croft improved things with his pace and workrate. Claire was dire, went off with a hamstring so I guess that's his season over with then. Midfield of Kiki, Barton, Ireland and Croft on Saturday I reckon. In at the deep end, he can't play Sun on the right again it was embarassing. Gutted for Onouha though, he's a lovely lad. He looked to be nearly in tears when I saw it on sky news this morning

 

They've got to get that red card withdrawn. It was ridiculous. I reckon Fowler' days are numbered under Psycho. If Croft doesn't get a decent run in the team soon he'll want away and be another one we let slip through the net. I would have liked Sturridge to have been given a run out to let us see if what's being said about him is true. I suppose what it brought home to us was how short we are on decent cover and a couple of injuries could really bugger up our season.

Bob

 

How old is Sturridge though, I think he's only just 16 if he's not still 15

 

I watch Rugby league (Widnes). The few occasions I have seen players having a go at the ref eg back chat, it is delt with straight away.