Russian Sub Rescued

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    lhatkins Dazed and Confused

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    I'm glad they got them out, that's the 2nd submarine incident they've suffered,
     
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    domfjbrown live & breathe psy-trance

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    More than that - their nuclear subs used to be notoriously dangerous. One of them, the Konsomolets, which sank in 1989, has nuclear warheads aboard, and since the torpedo tube doors were open (afaik) when she sank, the warheads are not protected. When they rust through, there's enough radiation there to kill evey living organism on earth once it leaks into the seawater...

    Of course, someone might have grown a brain and recovered the warheads, but the money might have been spent elsewhere fighting meaningless BS wars or something.
     
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    Maybe Bin-toasted has got them now
     
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    I-S Good Evening.... Infidel

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    The front of the konsomolets was encased in a concrete sarcophagus in order to prevent the escape of nuclear material.

    What's rather more concerning is the amount of nuclear waste and old reactors that the russians have dumped in the barents sea, including the liquid-metal reactors out of the Alfa class subs and the reactors from the nuclear icebreaker fleet.

    It was concern over the reactors (russian subs typically have two) that lead to the kursk being raised.
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    armageddon - therre are just so many choices, neuclear pollution/ meltdown/ war, conventional war, terrorists, climate change, escalating forum arguments, ah fun, fun, fun.
     
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    lhatkins Dazed and Confused

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    you forgot Asteroids, commets, etc.!
     
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    domfjbrown live & breathe psy-trance

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    So what happens when the sub rusts from the stern, back to the concrete???

    The Barents Sea must be rather, err, nasty then. I saw this programme once on telly showing all the rotting remains of Russian nuclear vessels - didn't look too appealing...
     
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    He's going to have to be a very versatile little fella to do so - I think the thing's about a mile down, and the number of submersibles in the world that can even operate at that depth, never mind extract torpedoes from tubes, is in the single figures.
     
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    Swiss start Deep Ocean arms race :eek:
     
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    Hardly. It couldn't do very much down there and nobody was interested. When Alvin was built, nobody in the Navy was interested and it had to be built by a subsidiary of General Mills ("Quaker Oats"!). Then the US Navy lost the Thresher and suddenly the Navy was very interested. The previously-unloved Alvin was launched draped with the Stars and Stripes and with a great bevy of admirals in attendance. "The universe below" is an excellent book on the deep sea and the various attempted intrusions into it by humanity.
     
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    domfjbrown live & breathe psy-trance

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    ...and of course, Alvin was the first manned sub to visit the Titanic as well...
     
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