I know that feeling well. I was up till late last night coding a system where I can write an article, stick it in a database then people can make comments on it. I going mad trying to get it too work and not understand it. I came back to it this morning wide awake and discovered it was very simple. I missed out a speech mark in objrs response.write objRS("subject") this. I couldn't believe I could miss somthing so basic. There is no way I would have even made that mistake if I wasn't tired.