HFC dropped into the post box today (yes, I do, shush!). In it there's a review of the new Audio Analogue Primo CD player. HFC say how innovative it is that they've used a CD-ROM mechanism and used its internal D/A conversion. Hold on. Yes, they've taken a CD rom drive, similar to that for which you'd pay £30 retail (at most! It's not costing them more than a fiver...), put it in a box with a display, power supply and an analogue ouput stage. For this they want £475!!!!! In other words... the output on the 4 pin MPC3 header on the back of the CD rom drive is the output of the player, after going through a buffer!