Obviously one couldn't expect any spike shrink,the Ipod doesn't weight enough,but if this thing can batter expensive CDPs then clearly it needs at least 10 phases. <no copyright laws have been infringed,except the home owner who has had his picture nicked,and legal costs will be donated to charity> [IMG]http://www.justgofaster.com/gallery/gallery/dave/misc/ipod1%20copy.jpg[/IMG]