Ah shin ... but you havent mounted atcs on phase 15 mana have you? Until you have done that (with bubs system in bubs room) then you are not qualified to make any kind of judgement based on mere immutable physical characteristics.

One day bub will start dissing the distortion of the atc just as he now disses the ninja lp12 he used to own. He would chuck his entire system away including sme if he actually bothered to go out there and buy on the basis of actually listening to more than one brand before buying - rather than choosing based on the glossy pictures and magazine reviews. A hifi trainspotter of the worst order. Doubtless all his mates tell him the system is great just to stop him droning on.

Murray - doubtless I would find your own choices just as odious