Speaker cable for detail and bass at low volumes

No. More sensitive speakers or better amps can't alter the Fletcher-Munson effect.

 

So it's not Paul's cable that's defective but his cable/box interface (is that something more exalted than a plug and a socket?). Still can't see how Mana would be able to heal/prevent a defect there.

bub, I'm on record as liking what Mana does, very much so, and I can't hear the brightness others seem to have experienced either. But I still think your enthusiasm got the better of you here.

 

Thanks for all your thoughts.

If you take the time to re-read the thread you will find that I did not bring up the subject of Mana in this thread.

I hardly ever actually bring it up because I know the sort of hysterical "acting out" it causes here.

Capisce?

 

would a layer of mana sort my worn stylus?

 

Just read the reviews on the Mana site. If it is a placebo, it's a very good one. There are many respected hi-fi reviewers' opinions on there.

 

The same could be said for many of the ideas or products you are so quick to poopoo

 

Name one single product which I have poopoo'ed (great word, poopoo) which is endorsed by more than one reviewer.

 

im not anal enough to bother with it, does it matter what a reviewer says? surely down to the person who listens to it!

what makes me laugh, you seem to slag off reviewers here, and yet use them to back up your views there.

Ive stayed away from this for ages, watching from the sideline, but tbh it is gettin daft. This is a good forum and kindly looked after by decent mods. do we need jumping down everyones throat at the mention of cables etc...

personaly i dont think so. So now you know my feelings on the matter ill leave it at that

 

Look. All I've said is that you need good-quality cables. These are readily obtainable at reasonable prices. The man asking the question already has good quality cables. Changing them isn't going to solve his problem (IMO).

I repeat, I avoid the subject of Mana because of hysteria from contributors like you.

 

Hysterical?
your barking mate
re-read and take in what i said, first time i have spoken out about it.

 

Changing the subject My Tact system sounded every bit as good at very low levels.

Maybe something to do with changing the volume by reducing the level of power from the mains Plus obviously the ability to coreect for the FM curve

 

point taken Merlin
my appologies to others, ill stay away

 

I am not your 'mate'.

 

James I see yourself making mischief again, can't help it can you, like a kid in a sweetie store.
James you and Paul Ranson are equaly suited to each other, I hope you will lead a fruitfully 'intresting life together'
PS I can't believe you posted that total bollox, fair play.
Mana, no other crap looks like or sounds like it
Muppet first order

 

This is the question,

So why not answer it?

The problem is that it is an unanswerable question. The OP has assumed the form of the answer, but, IMO, he's wrong. Additionally he hasn't informed us what sources he has, how the speakers are mounted, how his room is laid out, we don't know most of what we need to know to actually advise on the problem.

To start with the system isn't pretty much how 'nsherin' wants it since it doesn't work for him. The question should be 'how do I make it how I want it?'. So garyi had the right idea.

Secondly speaker cables cannot boost bass or reveal more detail. It doesn't work that way.

Ploughing straight in, I have no confidence that a £180 5 channel AV amp/decoder/all the bits unit can operate adequately as a stereo hifi amp. This is, IMO, the basic problem.

So garyi had the right answer too.

Has anybody corrected for the Fletcher-Munson effect and got a good result? ISTM that the brain is pretty good at hearing, a quiet F-M corrected sound will sound bass and treble heavy because it is too quiet for the levels of bass and treble being heard. Perhaps you can become accustomed to it?

Paul

 

James brought up tone arm cable microphony. It's surprising that a bunch of people who believe in cables as tone and detail controls are so sceptical.

Anyway, anybody with a system including a turntable with an MM cart, select MM, crank the volume to max, whack the cable. What happens?

Try before you scorn, or does that only work one way? It's good physics too, which is rather unusual...

Paul

 

Paul, for once we agree 100% on the above here

Paul R wrote.......

Try before you scorn, or does that only work one way? It's good physics too, which is rather unusual...

Humm the words Pot/Kettle/Black spring to mind here Paul

 

Tony, show me the physics for, for example, 'cable break in'.

Paul

 

Paul, I feel you know as well as I do, there are no Calculations or formulea or proven postive therories that are directly attributable to Cable burn in, I can therorise all night, but it doesn't Make it so However it has a positive effect, so we use it, great also for speeding up the testing time before each cable can be evaluated.
AS do a lot of so called 'Voodoo' items, so by calling merely saying show me the physics, is a cop out as to 'Oh don't have a go about my rattling sub atomic microvibrational tone arm enhancement pieces, why not just consruct the arm with channels for the cables run inside, and fabicate the arm from a completely inert but strong and light material.
So playing cry wolf, just doesn't cut it, after all you could just buy some Russ Andrews audio grade tone arm restraining and damping isolation devices sir Only £10 per cable Tie

A good a Theroy as any