Speaker Cable - How good is this?

Discussion in 'Hi-Fi and General Audio' started by dreftar, Jun 29, 2007.

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    TonyL Club Krautrock Plinque

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    You are deaf if you don't like celery.

    Tony.

    PS 1000!
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    I have been using celery as a cable elevator for months.

    The groove in the celery make a perfect conduit for cable.

    :p

    ;)

    just making light..
     
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    Tony, I expected your 1000th (congratulations BTW) post to be more memorable.:boogie::drum::band: etc. etc.
     
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    darrylfunk

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    stop mouthing off eminem.
    how am i a troll ? you are not answering my questions.

    and whats all this cant and wont listen.

    of course i listen to gear but i dont just spout nonsensical poor recommendations for weird and wonderful tweaks.

    i leave that to people like you.

    for the original poster the maplin 99 p cable is a bargain and sounds fine.

    you may well get better cable if you can match it to your amp and speakers better . better dialectric . lower loss . less capacitance etc etc.

    effem and zanash why are you being so aggresive and not addressing my questions.


    why does my cable at home sound fine as all speaker cables on my system do !

    maybe your systems are so badly matched electrically your connections are all acting like weird filters and distorting the sound delivery.
     
    darrylfunk, Jul 4, 2007
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    zanash

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    Quote "effem and zanash why are you being so aggresive and not addressing my questions."

    Oh come on now .....aggressive moi ....and what question ?

    If you want the original poster to buy sh*te, just come out and say it. I'd actually prefer the chap was to buy something that he's comfortable with ...sorry if you can't handle that ....

    And of course you now decsend into personal insult or insult by insinuation ...ie

    Quote "maybe your systems are so badly matched electrically your connections are all acting like weird filters and distorting the sound delivery."

    talk about clueless ..I'm glad you know how my system sounds ..without listening to it.

    That sums up your approach to cable choice to...without listening !

    just for the record ...if cables all sound the same why are you not using the freebies supplied originally ?


    Actually I've been baiting the troll !....but shhhhhh he may not notice..
     
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    darrylfunk

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    carry on baiting

    avoid answering questions

    and where have i said cables sound the same you muppet.

    is it cos you cannot read ?

    how do know the maplin cable is crap when you have not heard it yet i have.

    you and eminem mouthed off and said i was deaf i just returned your ignorance.

    you still dont know what cables i use at home !

    face it you are a self appointed guru who knows jack.

    you are a mystic !

    you have wound me up so you can certainly affect the perfomance of my hi fi by being a arrogant git and putting me in a bad mood.

    you are a hi fi fiddler as simple as that.

    where are you fantastic own designed cd players , speaker drivers, amps etc .... not just changing caps and resistors and bits of wire.

    nope so dont critise audio professionals when you are a tweaker and thats all.

    thank you.
     
    darrylfunk, Jul 4, 2007
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    zanash

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    the sound of a loud and extended raspberry ... !



    I'd suggest you grow up [if possible ] and reread my post more carefully as you seem to have extrapolated certain comments and taken some from other posters.

    I'm intimately aquainted with all the maplin Sh*te I've even bought it in the past. At best its mediocre, delivering a performance that flat and lifeless IMO

    Except for one that was a real stunner ..but sadly no longer stocked

    Since when have I ever claimed to be anything other than a tweaker and a builder of diy cables .....I actually take that as a compliment ....

    so if you intend to insult me you need to try a little harder ....I'll give you 3/10 as you lost some marks for accuracy, as in not having any ....

    so what have you got big boy !
     
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    Wickfut

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    I bought some about a week ago. It REPLACED Nordost Superflat in my system and sounds good.

    This cable isnt crap , it is a genuine bargain at this price.
     
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    darrylfunk

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    your the expert you buy some for 99p and tellme its crap after you have heard it.

    simply put its a bargain.

    they have not stocked it for very long so why not try it as you seem so stuck on every one being open minded.
     
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    Hello Daryl,

    Do you care to share your experiences within the professional field with us ? It is always interesting to see the different directions people who work within the industry take compaired to the musicians and the people who buy the end product.

    What about your system ? What are you using and what is your prefered source ?

    As for your discussion with Effem and Zanash, you may want to be a little more respectable, both have been members of this forum for some time and have contributed many a valuable and entertaining post, none of us in these forums know exactly what tastes and experiences each other has, take it easy and be more open about your experiences, system and tastes and you may find you gain a lot more than losing an argument (personal experience).
     
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    sastusbulbas

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    I personaly think my system would perform better with Transparent Audio cables, but I cannot bloody afford them, nor justify spending money on that sort of thing.
     
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    dreftar

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    "A badly made silver plated copper cable will savage your ears in no time"

    When I want my ears savaging I play Jimi Hendrix Loud. The same effect can be had from a recording of my P4 class' recorder practice!
     
    dreftar, Jul 4, 2007
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    darrylfunk

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    hi chaps,
    i have worked in audio and studios since school including being the importer of macintosh , accuphase , isoda cable, infinity , thiel, bryston , countrpoint , totem when they first began and loads more that i have forgotten , spells at roksan and hi fi dealers , various studio jobs including award winning jazz production , music for tv and film and various bands etc. done a bit of amp and speaker design in teams and specialise in vinyl systems and club and studio mastering systems .

    have always prefffered to lay low and not talk about my work but as the subject on here became heated and i was seen as a heretic just voiced my experience.

    unfortunately there is not enough music posting on here and i only dip in on occaision .

    oh and i have made records myself and intend to do more in the future.

    to be honest i care more about the software so i think i will give this forum a miss in future.

    cheers fellas.

    darryl.
     
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    Thank you ...thats my point in a roundabout sort of way...

    you have found a cable that works in your system .....

    you've taken the time to try it against others. you've made a considered choice [maybe]


    unlike some wallies who try and force there prejudices on to other people, and restrict an individuals choice.

    Its not a cable i'd choose for my own system...

    Have you ever thought about why the price has dropped from £10 to £1 .....could it be that it was placed on the market at an inflated price ..just so that when it was reduced it could look the bargin it now appears ? If the cable or any product for that matter is worth £10 why sell it for £1, thats likely to be less than they bought it in bulk.....Could it be a new and even better one is about to be released ...Did some hurbert get his order wrong by a factor of ten .....who knows [well maplin might]


    Advice is only advice ..you don't have to take it. I've offered advice thats gleened from the mistakes of nearly 35 years of audio experience.... If you want to repeat my errors, thats ok ....but why reinvent the wheel ? Why not start from a position of knowledge rather than ignorance At least if you consider the option before you spend your hard earned.....you less likely to have a shed full of cheap and rather nasty cables 35years hence.
     
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    Darryl, don't go. Heated/pointless arguments unfortunately seem to be unavoidable in Internet forums. We do have a Music forum and until some of the regulars stopped posting there was one of our highlights. Please feel free to post there (hopefully it will inject some life into the forum) and leave these arguments to the blinkered ones.
     
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    I agree ....you have to post what you know about..

    but that said nobody has twisted darryl arms to make him post his anti message when all else was mostly positive constructive advice, that could be accepted or not.
     
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    Reading some of the posts above I find it surprising that some people just do not see how their posts could be offensive to the one with opposite view. The points could have been made much more diplomatically and calmly.

    P.S. and I'm NOT just referring to "naysayers".:rolleyes:.
     
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    "some people just do not see how their posts could be offensive to the one with opposite view. The points could have been made much more diplomatically and calmly."

    Well said, Dev. It's not only offensive to those involved - just reading these boorish posts is unpleasant. What happened to constructive comment and reasoned discussion?

    It's a shame that a few people have to spoil things for everyone else, but a lack of respect for oneself or anyone else seems to be all to common these days.

    If there's much more of this abuse and throwing the toys out of the pram, I'm off to a more adult forum.
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    Hi couperin

    It's best not to be offended by any post, on any internet forum. It's all hobbyists discussing their hobby, and it can get a bit heated from time to time.

    On pink fish media, zerogain, the naim forum and hifiwigwam (the biggest forums I know of) you can see heated arguements on all of them.

    I've got angry/into it before, and its hard to take a step back when you're in the middle of it.

    I keep telling myself these days ''whatever you type will be there for years'' - ZG's posts go back I think 7 years now (I think!!).. and I don't want to look like a wally for that long.... I hope!
     
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    I believe all hifi cables come to the market with an inflated price and if they sell they remain inflated.

    I dont think the cable come to the market with the intention of having a price reduction as maplins are the only stockist of this cable with the reduction. The other stores online who sell it still price the cable at £7 - £10 per metre.
     
    Wickfut, Jul 5, 2007
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