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    Stereo Mic

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    All that technology speak on the site and not a single measurement anywhere!

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
     
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    sq225917 Exposer of Foo

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    You could just try shutting up.....;-)



    they make high purity copper with very low grain boundaries when drawn. it can't sound any worse than basic OFC...
     
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    One of these days you might learn to do the same. The wink is pathetic BTW. Come down and visit me ;-)
     
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    Can't sound any better either....
     
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    here we go again ....
     
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    “Believe in Your Ear!â€Â

    Does this mean cable believers' heads have mutated/evolved into a single mono ear? Freakish.
     
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    I had a hard day at work saw this link and laughed.
    I bet SM opened the link and sighed very hard.

    BTW SM has influenced me -I read specs more carefully nowadays
    -it says 7N = 99.99998 on the link -Isnt that 6N ?


    Andy
     
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    what is very clear to me is that these cable manufacturers are making a fortune but i would like to buy good cable at the right price this does appear to be where all the good cable comes from see linc http://www.soundstageav.com/onhifi/20060415.htm if it can be sourced from the states for half the price then this is where i shall be bying it ive found it on ebay item no 180186988648 looks cheap compared with cord etc and it does appear quility cheers is sm a nightmare then
     
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    SM, what measurements are you looking for exactly? If we went by measurements alone why not go out and buy one of those S/S Sansui's or something else that measures so well. Why? Cause they SOUND like crap. Measurements do not tell the whole story. Especially the final SOUND.
    Your in such a minority with your opinion about cables that your You of course are entitled to your opinion but your in the minority IMO.
    Why don't we take a survey of ZG members as follows; those who do hear a difference and those who do not.
    Now without being insulting by comparison all the people I know who cannot hear a difference are tone deaf and they admit

    they cannot tell a difference. You could very well be tone deaf as well. This is not an insult or excuse but an observation based on experience. Even my wife who dosnn't even critically listen to my system can tell when I change a cable, especially when one is copper and one silver. It amazes me to this day that she knows. BTW she plays Guitar.


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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    I have a classic Sansui amp.

    I think it sounds great.

    I play fhe guitar.

    I think that most cables sound the same, and that when they don't they have differing LCR.

    I'm not your wife however! ;)
     
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    Sansui was my first set up. Still have the tunerI believe the Intergrated was a AU 9500 or something. It did sound great at the time with Heco horn [ Germany] speakers.
    The SET's which I own now do not measure as well and sound sooooooo much better.
    Without sounding dumb, what is LCR?

    thanks,
    rollo
     
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    Well LCR for typical 8ft or 10ft lengths would show refreshing honesty. Sadly I suspect it would give too much away - but I'd like to see that as a minimum requirement enforced by the advertising standards authority.

    As for being in a minority - well a poll would be interesting. There are a lot of people who don't buy into audiophile marketing - both here and on other forums.
     
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    Wehey - another roll out of the old 'my wife could spot the ink blackness' rubbish!
     
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    Someone who uses cryogenically treated Isolda speaker cables that run to about £60/m really is in no position to criticise anyone else's cable choice and should STFU until he votes with his pocket, his so called vast audio experience and his ears, and switches back to something bog standard and 'normal' like he insists everyone else should use.
     
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    I'm not telling anyone what to do if you try reading. I am pointing out the facts. There are no measurements whatsoever. Loads of tech but no measurements. Don't you stop to wonder why?

    You on the other hand seem to be trying to tell me what to do which is both ironic and highly amusing.

    If you can find me a less expensive alternative with the same ultra low inductance / high capacitance LCR I'll happily swap out and sell on this stuff and pocket the money. Any suggestions?
     
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    This arguing about everything to do with cables is quite dull now. I can see why people report getting titsed off with ZG...it is becoming quite anal _______ change the record someone please..............
     
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    You could try the Virtual Dynamics site that has measurements from the University of Toronto, slew rate, noise ...
     
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    It's odd that George. I mean there's no discussion of those results anywhere that I can find. Which is bizarre. I can't find any sets of measurements for their audio cables though and I know they have a "reputation" in the industry.

    The best source of cable measurements I can find is of course Audioholics, who have run a number of proper scientific cable tests over the years. Very interesting reading if you are worrying about cables and looking to save some money.
     
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    link
     
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