studio monitor / hi fi speaker

Probably because most classical music is mainly altered in the mastering. There is not a lot to do in terms of mixing and EQ of each instrument and effects as it is normally recorded with a stereo pair or such. i.e. As it is recorded mainly in stereo, there is not a lot other than mastering to do.

I doubt the engineer on sight setting up the microphones and recording gear uses 801's for this is where you need an accurate monitor.

 

Mastering not necessary?
Tell that to Bob Ludwig

He uses Egglestone Works speakers, among others..
And if mastering isn't necessary, who's going to sort Mpeg compression on DVDs? Or ensure correct RIAA eq on analogue master disc cutting? Or make sure a single is compressed as poss for the radio market, and (hopefully) much less compressed on an album?

 

801s are used in studios purely mastering rap/ reggae music. Why would that be ?

ns10 monitors are not mastering monitors.

 

Lol!

Johnny, that is just plain untrue.

As to 801's being used in studios mastering only rap and reggae, well they are used in many mastering studios as we have already established. I'm sure you can find a rap and reggae studio that doesn't use them if you try.

 

Hi,

Poor taste? Not enough money to buy real monitors (like Meyer Sound X-10's with X-800 Subs). Maybe they like the fact that the 801's have a lot of distortion and compression?

What sort of monitor (or not if you dislike the qualities of a true monitor) ends up in a studio (oustide the Federal German TV & Radio System anyway) depends as much on taste & preference as Home Speakers....

Yet in their time that was exactly their use, together with nearfield monitoring.

You fail to comprehend what modern recordings attempt to achieve and how, as well as the implications from this for both studio and domestic speakers.

Anyway, if you want to be convinced why high performance, high cost studio monitors listen to MEG RL-901K's or Meyer Sound X-10 (with or without Sub) or maybe a pair of K+H O500 or Silbersand's top of the range monitors, throw some westlakes into the mix as well and then go back to these horrid 801's....

Ciao T

 

You know I have to admit that I have not heard any Westlake’s (at least to my knowledge). Any ideas where I could hear some? Preferably the better ones I bet those in-wall ones are pretty good.

 

Hi,

Not sure about the UK, you can find quite a few over in the land of gawddarn yankees....

Ciao T

 

Thor/3D, just been reading about yout curve! Interesting. Has helped me understand a little more though I've still some way to go. must have a try of that Derringer!

 

that's good to hear as it's one of the primary reason I'm interested in pro systems.

 

This poker face approach to discourse tells me either a) you've something to hide - eg. your real identity b) you're scared of giving too much away for fear of criticism or ridcule or c) you're plain ill mannered.

Can we take a poll on a) b) or c) ?

 

Hi,

I vote

d) - All of the above.

Ciao T

 

I WILL POST IN THIS THREAD SINCE THIS IS THE ACTUAL THREAD ABOUT THE B&WS :

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WASN'T A GENERIC STATEMENT. i WAS REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO THE N801'S .

 

amateur's point of view:
hi fi speakers have alot of the budget spent on very nice real wood, curved and exquisite cabinets along with good drive units and a generally narrow profile
studio monitors what i note are large imposing vinyl clad mdf boxes (like my PMC IB1's) with maximum money spent on high power drivers with very broad frequency range. must also be available in active form (to reduce clutter in the studio??) and go loud as you should ever like without distorting.
i'd imagine at £10,000 comparing PMC to B&W could be wrapped up in the above statements
3, 2 1............please dont shoot me down
neil

 

And in the other thread, the subject was the Nautilus, a different speaker.

Johnny, your first post on this forum was to find new friends IIRC. You might find this easier if you answered some of the questions that have been asked of you, and if you stopped treating people who have a lot of knowledge about audio like little children in need of education.

 

Yes except the "nice" drive units seem to be "nice" looking.

You can get pmc in nice oak finishes like my mb2s...

Ahem Markus ... let he who is without sin on that score...

 

I don't agree with you there..

For example the PMC TB2 uses a pair of extremely cheap bass drive units and tweeters.
The crossover components are also exteremely cheap.

So I wonder where the rest of the cost goes ?

 

johnny:
I don't agree with you there..

For example the PMC TB2 uses a pair of extremely cheap bass drive units and tweeters.
The crossover components are also exteremely cheap.

So I wonder where the rest of the cost goes ?

mine was obviously a broader than broad generalisation, please dont nit pick

brizonbiovizier:
You can get pmc in nice oak finishes like my mb2s...

edited, just realised how to quote properly, sorry guys

mb2's:notworthy love to see piccies of ya system, is it in 'my kit'

thanks
neil

 

Welcome aboard Neil. I have some cute little IB2's, also in the oak finish. I think they are very attractive with their rounded edges, flat cone and wood grain. By contrast the MB2's look like they're going to kill you

Also the cost of a speaker will depend on two things - their sound quality and quantity of air they move. If you want a very loud output whilst having the speakers far away, then it's going to cost you a hell of a lot of money to achieve it. However if your happy to have the speakers much closer in near field and thus presumably a lot quieter, then they can be relatively cheap for the exact same sound quality. Hence the original statement of any monitors over £20k is a little misleading / ott.

 

Yes I think it is - if not let me know and I will send you some. They are trimaped with a pair of bryston 4bst and a p[air of bryston 7bst - but going active in the next few weeks!

 

List yes, pictures no.

Love the new forum software.