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I've heard the same, but thinking about it logically

1) a poor system brings everything down to its level

Yup I can see that - everything sounds "great" on my Dansette. Actually "great" probably isn't the right word. It would be fairer to say that everything sounds "Dansette" on my Dansette Old Beatles and Stones singles do sound great though

2) a good system sounds good dependent on the recording

Yup I can see that too. I don't think I've got a bad system. I might even go so far as to say its good. Most of the time (95% perhaps) I love the way it sounds but some recordings are pretty murky and dull (I've got a Virgin re release of Sticky Fingers which sounds like its playing in the room next door - I put it down to amateurishness on Virgin's part as an original copy sounds very good indeed) ... Other recordings sound a bit toppy with little bass (some of the Smiths stuff on vinyl for example) or just plain harsh and distorted (OK Computer on CD anyone?). Note though its not consistent - bad can range from dull to bright, bass heavy to bass light - which would imply the recording/mastering/pressing is where the problem lies, not something being added by the system.

3) a great system always sounds good

Dunno. If it were true though I'd love to know how. If a good system is revealing what's there in the source - how can a great system somehow deal with the various flaws present in the source material?

When I've heard a system which can deal with all the different kinds of problem potentially present in the recording I'll believe 3, until then I'd remain doubtful.

BTW. I don't let it bother me that much - a recording would have to be pretty bloody disastrous for me not to listen to it if I liked the music.

<blockquote data-quote="Uncle Ants" data-source="post: 635441" data-attributes="member: 1411">I've heard the same, but thinking about it logically 1) a poor system brings everything down to its levelYup I can see that - everything sounds &quot;great&quot; on my Dansette.&nbsp; Actually &quot;great&quot; probably isn't the right word.&nbsp; It would be fairer to say that everything sounds &quot;Dansette&quot; on my Dansette&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />&nbsp;&nbsp; Old Beatles and Stones singles do sound great though&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />2)&nbsp; a good system sounds good dependent on the recordingYup I can see that too.&nbsp; I don't think I've got a bad system.&nbsp; I might even go so far as to say its good.&nbsp; Most of the time (95% perhaps) I love the way it sounds but some recordings are pretty murky and dull (I've got a Virgin re release of Sticky Fingers which sounds like its playing in the room next door - I put it down to amateurishness on Virgin's part as an original copy sounds very good indeed) ...&nbsp; Other recordings sound a bit toppy with little bass (some of the Smiths stuff on vinyl for example) or just plain harsh and distorted (OK Computer on CD anyone?).&nbsp; Note though its not consistent - bad can range from dull to bright, bass heavy to bass light - which would imply the recording/mastering/pressing is where the problem lies, not something being added by the system.3) a great system always sounds goodDunno.&nbsp; If it were true though I'd love to know how.&nbsp; If a good system is revealing what's there in the source - how can a great system somehow deal with the various flaws present in the source material?When I've heard a system which can deal with all the different kinds of problem potentially present in the recording I'll believe 3, until then I'd remain doubtful.BTW.&nbsp; I don't let it bother me that much - a recording would have to be pretty bloody disastrous for me not to listen to it if I liked the music.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uncle Ants, post: 635441, member: 1411"] I've heard the same, but thinking about it logically 1) a poor system brings everything down to its level Yup I can see that - everything sounds "great" on my Dansette. Actually "great" probably isn't the right word. It would be fairer to say that everything sounds "Dansette" on my Dansette :rolleyes: Old Beatles and Stones singles do sound great though ;) 2) a good system sounds good dependent on the recording Yup I can see that too. I don't think I've got a bad system. I might even go so far as to say its good. Most of the time (95% perhaps) I love the way it sounds [I]but[/I] some recordings are pretty murky and dull (I've got a Virgin re release of Sticky Fingers which sounds like its playing in the room next door - I put it down to amateurishness on Virgin's part as an original copy sounds very good indeed) ... Other recordings sound a bit toppy with little bass (some of the Smiths stuff on vinyl for example) or just plain harsh and distorted (OK Computer on CD anyone?). Note though its not consistent - bad can range from dull to bright, bass heavy to bass light - which would imply the recording/mastering/pressing is where the problem lies, not something being added by the system. 3) a great system always sounds good Dunno. If it were true though I'd love to know how. If a good system is revealing what's there in the source - how can a great system somehow deal with the various flaws present in the source material? When I've heard a system which can deal with all the different kinds of problem potentially present in the recording I'll believe 3, until then I'd remain doubtful. BTW. I don't let it bother me that much - a recording would have to be pretty bloody disastrous for me not to listen to it if I liked the music. [/QUOTE]

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