After the previous discussions, let's give this a go... The vBulletin license for ZeroGain is about to expire. A new license costs £45 for the year or £85 for a permanent license. Obviously we'd like the latter so we don't have to do this again. As there was some support for a donation basis, let's give this a go. This only needs 17 people to donate £5 apiece. We'll run on a thermometer basis, just aiming for the £85 at this time, and see how we go. Any pledges?