The sacred cantatas of J.S. Bach

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    ACHTUNG! VERY LONG AND VERY BORING POST!!

    CANTATA (Italian; feminine past participle of “cantare†(to sing)): (music): An extended composition for one or more voices and instrumental accompaniment …. a choral work resembling a short oratorio (SOED).

    My purpose here is not to give a detailed resumé of such a large body of work. The unequalled guide to the cantatas is the Bach Cantatas website at

    http://www.bach-cantatas.com/

    If you want to know something (just about anything) about the cantatas and the world in which they were composed and the people who have performed and recorded them, plus chat pages and reviews, apply here. I shall try to give some background for the newbie and give some thoughts on recordings, as a basis for further exploration.

    For the joy of the Bach cantatas is just that; it is a journey of exploration and discovery. I am constantly surprised by musical gems – beautiful chorales and arias, stunning instrumental work – that pop up all over the place, in music to which scant attention is paid. My project is to collect them all – I'm two-thirds of the way there (I have about 130)

    For no apparent reason, the cantatas of J.S. Bach occupy pole position in his catalogue of works, the Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis (“BWVâ€Â). They start at BWV 1 (Christmas cantata “Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern†(how beautifully shines the morning star)) and go on to just over BWV 200. 1-198 are the church cantatas, the rest are secular cantatas (“Peasantâ€Â, “Coffee†(sending up the recently-arrived fashion of coffee drinking), “Hunt†and several “Wedding†cantatas). By the way, “Hunt†(BWV 208) includes the famous, beautiful “Sheep may safely graze†(“Schäfe können sicher weidenâ€Â), often played at weddings.

    As cantor of Leipzig, with responsibility for the music used in the (Lutheran) churches of the town (mainly St. Thomas and St. Nicholas), Bach had to produce music for the particular Sundays and holy days of the church year, so Easter music for Easter, Christmas music for Christmas, etc. The Lutheran Church had its own strong ideas as to music, right from the very beginning, when its founder was the first man to say, “why should the Devil have all the good tunes?†Luther unhesitatingly turned street songs into religious songs, an example later followed by the Wesleys and William Booth, founder of the Salvation Army. One of the main features was the chorale, a simple tune sung and played in unison, sung by the congregation as well. Later, these were harmonised. By the time Bach came along, there was a considerable body of these, many of them with splendid tunes. Bach was to use them in his cantatas; not only did they make the work of production easier but they also provided a point of contact with the congregation, who knew them well. Bach had already written church cantatas at Weimar; he was to write many more in Leipzig, ending up with at least 4, probably 5, cycles of church cantatas of 52 weeks each (some have been lost).

    The secular cantatas often have quite trivial words, but the church cantatas are usually the reverse, very profound. As a devout Christian (or as near to that ideal as any mortal can get in this life), Bach poured real meaning into them, carefully matching the music to the words. He was, I suppose, what one would today call “born againâ€Â, real faith rather than lip service. He needed this faith to bear him through much tragedy, including the loss of his first wife and the half of his 20 children who died in infancy, and finally the loss of his sight, accelerated by the ministrations of an English quack (who was to do the same thing to Handel some years later). He may have had to produce the goods rapidly, but he meant every single word.

    In spite of that rapid production rate, the overall quality of the cantatas is amazingly good. They're not all brilliant masterpieces, but I've yet to hear one that isn't at least listenable. One theory concerning the B Minor Mass is that it is was Bach's choral “Art of Fugueâ€Â, into which he poured the best of everything he knew about choral music. Many of the memorable parts of that masterpiece originated in the cantatas. For some years, the rate was a cantata a week – which meant that not only had Bach to write the thing, but also rehearse his choir and orchestra, between one Sunday and the next. Naturally, not even Bach could write all of this from scratch, so he relied on libretti from other sources and existing church music. The libretti were a combination of material especially written for the occasion, the Scripture reading for that particular Sunday and the existing chorale words.

    The chorale melody was generally sung at the end of the cantata. However, Bach would also take the melody as a basis, and many cantatas include the chorale melody transformed, sometimes out of all recognition as a sort of choral fantasia, or by adding a memorable accompaniment. The most famous example of the latter is “Jesu bleibet meine Freude†(Jesu, joy of man's desiring) from BWV 147, which has a glorious lilting 9/8 time accompaniment that dominates the thing so much that people tend to forget the original chorale tune. The best example of the former is perhaps the Reformation Sunday cantata BWV 80 “Ein' feste Burg ist unser Gott†(a mighty fortress is our God). This chorale, still sung in churches today, is the great battle hymn of the Lutheran church, written by Luther himself and sung by Luther and his followers as they marched into Wurms to confront the Diet (Council) that was to examine Luther's radical views on established Catholic doctrine. In the cantata, the melody turns up in all sorts of variations, including a marvellous chorale where the choir sing the melody unharmonised in unison as the orchestral play swirls around them, an arrangement that some see as depicting demons assaulting a divine fortress, matching the words.

    In addition to using the existing chorale tunes as bases, there is some judicious recycling of material, both words and music. Moreover, the same cantata sometimes surfaces in an entirely suit of clothes. There are no less than three cantatas, “Was Gott tut, ist wohlgetan†(what God does, He does well)., and the beautiful lilting accompaniments of the opening chorale of “Du Hirte Israel, höre†(BWV 104) and the aria “Seht, was die Liebe tut†of “Ich bin ein guter Hirt†(BWV 85) sound like dummy runs for “Jesu, joyâ€Â. However, the surprising thing is just how much of it is not only original, but also of outstanding quality. Telemann, it was said, could set a laundry list to music. You just know that Bach could have made a cantata out of it (“Herz und Mund†recycled as “Seifen, waschen, trocknen, bügeln†(soaping, washing, drying, ironing)?)

    We hear the cantatas as free-standing concert works, but in Bach's time they were part of the service. A Lutheran church service of the 18th century did not actually last forever, it merely seemed that way. 3-4 hours was typical, starting at 7.00 am, and the sermon would typically last an hour. The cantata for the day would be performed after the scripture reading and it could be performed in one piece (the way we hear it today) or it might be played in several pieces with other segments of the service taking place between these parts. Bach himself would provide the continuo (harpsichord or organ), the reference point of the music in those days before conductors. At his disposal, he had a small orchestra, the church choir and the boys from the choir school associated with St. Thomas's. Women weren't permitted in church choirs in those days, so there would have been counter-tenors for the alto parts, probably also from the school (where the oldest pupils would have been in their early 20s). Unlike Beethoven the artist, who wrote something and expected it to be performed just like that and didn't much care if the poor player or singer thought it was nearly impossible, Bach tailored his music to the talents of the available players and singers. The largish number of intricate trumpet parts in the cantatas indicates that he had a top-class virtuoso at his disposal – and so he had, Gottfried Reiche, for whom the tricky trumpet part of Brandenburg Concerto No.2 was probably written. However, other players would have been very ordinary and the standards of performance would not always have been the best.

    Before the mid-70s, cantata recordings were relatively thin on the ground, the more famous ones appearing occasionally in the catalogues. Solo singers would tackle the solo cantatas (for wexample, both Hans Hotter and Dame Janet Baker have recorded BWV82 "Ich habe genug". One of the few major exponents was the organist and conductor Karl Richter and his Munich Bach Orchestra, on the infant Archiv label of Deutsche Grammophon. However, he recorded only a relatively small number of the better-known cantatas. Another series was the Erato series, “Les grandes cantatas de J.S. Bachâ€Â, by the Pforzheim Chamber Orchestra under Fritz Werner, again recording only a small proportion. Both of these were on modern instruments, but in them you can see the beginnings of a move away from grand orchestration and bel canto operatic voices, neither of which Bach would have known. Both of these series are available today in collections – see, for example:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...89524/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2_2/026-2626155-9674023

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...89706/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_0_1/026-2626155-9674023

    (The latter is an especially good deal, for anyone wanting to hear cantatas on the cheap).

    Richter was a devoted Bachian, but his readings can sound old-fashioned these days (his BWV140 is VERY ponderous). However, he did have the services of some formidable talents, such as the young Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, and much of Richter's stuff remains highly listenable. The Erato series was uneven, some very good, some not so hot. The Heinrich Schutz choir of Werner sometimes lets the side down badly, as do some of the soloists (no star names at all). Morever, some of the Werner recordings date back to the early '60s, and they show their age; this isn't helped by some of the transfers to CD (Werner's BWV 147 has very boomy, intrusive bass). However, there are some that still sound very good – for example, BWV 140.The series also benefitted from the presence of some of Erato's stable of top artists – the trumpeter was often Maurice André and nobody, but nobody, could blow his own trumpet quite so well.

    The first complete recording of all the cantatas was started in the 1970s by Helmuth Rilling, a lecturer at Stuttgart, who had given many live performances of the cantatas. With the Gächinger Kantorei that he had formed, he started recording cantatas in 1970, without the intention, as far as I'm aware, of doing the lot. Yet, 15 years later, that's what he'd done. He did this on a variety of labels, but eventually the complete set was issued by Hänssler, and it's still available. Rilling used modern instruments and voices (Arleen Auger is the soprano on many of them), but his readings changed over the years as research and the original instrument movement threw new light on how music was played in Bach's day. The initial packaging had the cantatas in random order (Rilling had started with relatively obscure cantatas), but a recent repackaging has put them in BWV numerical order. They were digitally remastered for this, but I can't hear any difference. As you'd imagine, the Richter, Rilling and Werner stuff have considerable similarities. On rehearing some of this material in writing this piece, I found that some Rilling recordings in particular sound over-rich. They're just TOO “modernâ€Â. Recording quality is generally good.

    The next complete recording was completely different. Telefunken set out to record all the cantatas on its “Das Alte Werke†label, using original instruments, boy sopranos and counter-tenors rather than contraltos, in other words, to be as near as possible to how they would have sounded to Bach. This mighty task was undertaken by two groups, one with Nickolaus Harnoncourt and his Concentus Musicus Wien with the Chorus Viennensis and the Wiener Sängerknaben (Vienna Boys' Choir), the other by Gustav Leonhardt and his Ensemble with various choirs (including both the Tölzer Knabenchor and the choir of King's College Cambridge). Being a pioneer means that you blaze the trail and make all the mistakes, and the recordings are often somewhat lacking. The sound of the original instruments is often thin and scrawny, the recordings sometimes leave a lot to be desired, and orchestras, choirs and soloists sometimes clearly found it tough going. Yet many find this element of “danger†attractive – it's something you don't get with Gardiner's Monteverdi Choir, which you just know is capable of doing anything required of it. The complete set can be bought on Teldec. It has its share of flops, but it has also many gems. Telefunken deserves much credit for this daring enterprise, although it was done in kinder times. John Eliot Gardiner was to find that the times they are a-changin'.

    Since that time, two new sets are on the way. Erato started having another go with Ton Koopman and the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra and Choir. These are being released in 3 CD volumes. Erato then pulled out, but Koopman is continuing with private means. The other is, surprisingly, Japanese. Masaaki Suzuki and the Bach Collegium Japan are working their way through the cantatas on the BIS label. Both of these are original instrument performances, and they demonstrate how much has been learned in the time since Harnoncourt went pioneering. I find Koopman's readings (those that I have) to be not particularly exciting. On the other hand, the Japanese have made an outstanding effort, and the volumes released by Suzuki that I've heard have been excellent, some of the best, spoiled a little sometimes by the slight “echoiness†of the recording venue, the Chapel of Sholin Women's University, which the BIS engineers hadn't quite tamed at the beginning ((good in later recordings).

    One can't leave complete sets without mentioning the set that never was. 2000 was the 250th anniversary of Bach's death, and John Eliot Gardiner decided that he would perform all the surviving church cantatas in the right liturgical order in churches all over Europe. It was intended to record all the cantatas at the same time, but somewhere along the way, Archiv got cold feet at the sheer size of the project and reduced the number and then reduced it again, to only 12 CDs –and some of them were repackaged recordings made 10 years earlier. The project was one of the factors that led to the cancellation of his Archiv contract, Archiv not wanting to pay out for yet another complete cantata recording for music that barely featured even on the classical hit parade. It has been said that Gardiner DID record them all in live performance, but whether the material is of sufficient quality for release must be moot – the burden of travelling and then rehearsing and performing several cantatas a week doesn't promise consistently good quality. However, the ones that have been released have been good. There is a general perception that Gardiner excels in the festive cantatas, where his high energy approach and the ability of his marvellous choir to perform miracles on command produces red-blooded, exciting performances, but that he is not so convincing in the more reflective cantatas. I haven't found this, but some of his releases (ones I haven't got) have taken a mauling on the cantatas website.

    One approach that I do NOT like (purely personal bias on my part) is Joshua Rifkin's. Rifkin has argued for one voice per part. In other words, there is no choir, just the soloists. To me, the result sounds pathetically thin, but I know people who enjoy the sparse sound and clarity of lines. Each to his or her own.

    There are a couple of other good part-series of which I am aware. Philippe Herrweghe has produced some excellent cantata recordings, as has Christophe Coin with his Ensemble Baroque de Limoges. In addition, there are a number of part-series that are rarely seen outside Germany. Some of these feature the Thomanerchor, the choir of St. Thomas, Leipzig, the successor of the choir that Bach once conducted.

    I have not heard all the cantatas. My 130 are a very mixed bag. Most are Rilling, because they are often cheaply on sale in Switzerland (thank goodness for the limited appeal of cantatas), and I can augment the collection cheaply. However, I have bits of nearly everyone else. This piecemeal approach leads inevitably to duplication (and worse!), but this is useful for comparison.

    So, which cantatas to buy?

    To me, the best starting point for the cantatas are BWV 140 “Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme†(Awake! the voice calls to us, known in English as “Sleepers, awake!â€Â) and BWV 147 “Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben†(Heart and mouth and deed and life).

    BWV 140, the story of the wise and foolish virgins at the wedding feast (Matt. 25:1-13), is a gem, one of the very greatest. Curiously, none of it can be called “outstanding†in the sense of having spectacular choruses or dazzling instrumental work, but if it can be described in a word, that word would be charm. It all hangs together beautifully. The second appearance of the chorale is accompanied by one of those wonderful Bach accompaniments, made slightly famous by Jacques Loussier, that make you forget the original chorale tune. It sounds like this:

    http://www.sonyclassical.com/music/66511/index.html

    The duet “Mein Freund ist mein†with oboe is also noteworthy.

    BWV 147 is for the Feast of the Visitation and remembers the visit of the pregnant Mary to her cousin Elizabeth, also pregnant (with John the Baptist) (Luke 1:39-45). It's famous for one of the greatest of all Bach tunes, “Jesu, joy of man's desiringâ€Â, which occurs twice. Just in case someone out there DOESN'T know the tune, try here:

    http://www.lib.virginia.edu/MusicLi...ds/Jesu_joy.aif

    However, the magnificence doesn't stop there – the opening chorale, “Herz und Mund†itself, is spectacular, with a wonderful trumpet obbligato. The trumpet returns for the bass aria “Ich will von Jesu Wundern singenâ€Â.

    A good bet here is Gardiner, where the two are paired in a single CD (full-price and not particularly good value, time-wise). Although this is listed as part of the Cantata Pilgrimage of 2000, it is actually a repackaging of a 10 year-old recording. However, the performances are excellent, so good that you barely notice that they're on original instruments. See

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...89815/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_2_5/026-2626155-9674023

    Both can also be had on a double Erato CD of the old Werner performances, AND you also get BWV 28, 85, 90 and 119! As I said, the recordings and performances are uneven, but the BWV 140 is good and the magic trumpet of The Mighty André in BWV 90 and 147 helps balance the disadvantages of a poor recording. See

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...0673901-4287836

    Rifkin has a coupling of BWV 140 and 147 with 80, making it good value – see

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...90348/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_0_1/026-2626155-9674023

    but you have to like your Bach micro-scale (I don't). And the Harnoncourt box set at

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...89998/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_0_1/026-2626155-9674023

    is perhaps too comprehensive for someone only wanting an initial taste.

    So, what others for jumping-off points?

    BWV 1 “Wie schön leuchtet die Morgenstern†(How beautifully shines the morning star) A pleasant Christmas cantata that starts with a lovely chorale with two horns. Bach must have liked the chorale melody, because he used it six times in the cantatas (it also turns up several times in the organ preludes). Or perhaps he was desperate.

    BWV 4 “Christ lag in Todesbanden†(Christ lay in the bonds of death). An Easter cantata (just in case you hadn't guessed) characterised by the “Hallelujah†that ends every chorale and aria. The entire text is taken from Luther's hymn of the same name. No particularly great numbers, but very intense and meaningful.

    BWV 11 “Lobet Gott in seinem Reichen†(Praise God in His Kingdom), also known as the Ascension Oratorio, this is a triumphant work celebrating the Ascension of Christ. “Triumphant†for Bach means three trumpets soaring into the stratosphere.

    BWV 29 “Wir danken dir, Gott†(We thank you, God). Bach is known to have written at least 12 cantatas for the installation of new town councils in Leipzig. This is one of only 4 that have survived. This one starts off with a symphonia, made (relatively) famous by being the first number in Walter Carlos's (as she then was) “Switched-on Bachâ€Â. It then features a chorale whose melody was to end up twice in the B Minor Mass, including the great concluding chorale of that masterpiece. Three of the town council cantatas have been recorded by Philippe Herreweghe – see

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004SDHT/qid=1056290072/026-2626155-9674023

    This CD also includes BWV 119 (see below).

    BWV 31 “Die Himmel lacht, die Erde jubiliert†(The heavens laugh, the earth rejoices) Another great festive work, celebrating the Resurrection, with a marvellous opening chorale and a beautiful final chorale. The glorious solo trumpet part in the final chorale is played particularly beautifully by Maurice André in the old Erato “Les grandes Cantates†version in a burnished golden smoooooooth tone that the natural trumpeters could only dream about.

    BWV 51 “Jauczhet Gott in allen Ländern†(Rejoice unto God in all lands) A solo cantata for soprano. A good version with its spectacular soprano and equally spectacular soaring trumpet obbligato is a knockout. A good one is an old half-price Gardiner Erato one with Emma Kirkby on vocal cords and Crispian Steele-Perkins on trumpet: see

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...90138/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2_2/026-2626155-9674023

    This includes an excellent version of the Magnificat, one of Bach's most joyful works.

    BWV 80 “Ein' feste Burg ist unser Gott†(A mighty fortress is our God) For the Feast of the Reformation. Eldest son Wilhelm Friedmann decided (after the old boy had shuffled off this mortal coil, of course) to tart it up a bit, so he added the trumpets and drums that are now routine. Bach's ingenuity and Luther's warlike hymn go well together. If you want to hear the famous tune cornily rendered, and see the English words, apply here:

    http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/m/i/mightyfo.htm

    I have a number of versions, but the one I like best is Herreweghe's – see

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos...90204/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_0_1/026-2626155-9674023

    This is an unusually lively performance – many performances are relatively slow and sombre, as if weighed down by the effort of all that Satanic warfare; Herreweghe, clearly regarding Old Nick as a pushover, takes it at an enjoyably brisk clip. Unfortunately, this is also coupled with the Magnificat. How many Magnificats can you have? If you're me, lots, as it's one of my favourites.

    Some versions (e.g., Rilling, Leusink) omit the trumpets and drums, and the cantata doesn't sound any worse for their omission.

    BWV 82 “Ich habe genug†(I have enough) A greater contrast with the previous would be hard to imagine. A solo cantata for bass for the Festival of the Purification of the Virgin Mary, it is a quiet, reflective work of resignation of the believer who accepts the coming of death. It features a meltingly beautiful aria “Schlummert ein, ihr matten Augenâ€Â.

    BWV 85 “Ich bin ein guter Hirt†(I am a good shepherd) A quiet, reflective cantata, whose chief glory is the gentle “Jesu joyâ€Â-like aria “Seht, was die Liebe tutâ€Â.

    BWV 119 “Preise, Jerusalem, den Herrn†(Praise thy God, O Jerusalem) Another of the Leipzig council inauguration cantatas. It has an almost militaristic air, with four trumpets and drums. These come to the fore in the aria “Der Herr hat Guts an uns getanâ€Â, which must have nearly blown the old boys' wigs off. Herreweghe does a particularly good job (see above, under BWV 29) as does Suzuki, although I think the former just shades the latter – for Suzuki, see

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005U8HZ/qid=1056290287/026-2626155-9674023

    BWV 129 “Gelobet sei der Herr†(Praised be the Lord) is an unusual work, in that the beginning and end chorales sound as if they belong to something entirely different from the three arias sandwiched between them. The Rilling version features the three trumpeting Läubin brothers blowing up a storm in the chorales.

    BWV 137 “Lobe den Herren, den mächtigen König der Ehren†(Praise to the Lord, the Almighty, the King of creation) Not many Lutheran hymn tunes have become well known to English church-goers (the two or three that are left anyway), but this famous hymn of Joachim Neander is one of them. It goes like this (with gritted teeth):

    http://www.kirchenweb.at/sound/xs/kirchenlieder/038.htm

    The famous melody (which was slightly different in those days) is heard in all movements in different guises, starting with a fantasia and ending with a beautiful unison singing.

    BWV 169 “Gott soll allein mein Herze haben†(God alone shall have my heart) This is famous for its longish, tuneful opening symphonia (strings and organ), with material pinched from a Bach keyboard concerto. The rest of the cantata is enjoyable.

    BWV 190 "Singet den Herrn ein neues Lied" A magnificent New Year cantata with a wonderful rousing final chorale (the last cantata performed by Gardiner on his pilgrimage, as can be seen on his cantata DVD). However, it has come down to us incomplete (the orchestral parts for the first two movements are incomplete or missing completely). As a result, some intrepeters have chosen to omit it (e.g., Harnoncourt, Leusink). WHich is a pity, because it's a gem. Both Rilling and Suzuki (and Gardiner) have reconstructed the first two movemwents, and they sound perfectly in character.

    Naturally, these are personal favourites and other folk will have different opinions, but they'll give you the flavour of a marvellous body of music. Overall, I like Gardiner and Suzuki best, but the others (Harnoncourt, Koopman, Herreweghe, Rilling) do good stuff and can't be ignored, and again, others will have other opinions. For example, Eisenach is very partial to the “Das Alte Werke†set for his own good reasons (come and tell us all about it, Eisenach!!). But do try some cantatas; they constitute one of the most extraordinary bodies of work ever written, and some belong in every serious music lover's collection. Happy listening!

    (Added 30 June 2003)

    Seeing that the Leusink complete Bach cantatas set was being offered by a German mail order firm for EUR78 (for 60 CDs!), I couldn't resist. They arrived on Saturday.

    By way of introduction, I wasn't aware of these when I wrote my previous piece, because they weren't available in Switzerland - it was a query on the Mana Forum that made me aware of their existence (see? it has its uses!). A visit to the cantata website told me everything else I needed to know. Pieter Jan Leusink and his Dutch groups recorded all the cantatas in an apparently breakneck 15 months. They couldn't be any good, said many critics (naturally without ever having heard them). But I sampled a volume and liked what I heard, so I took the plunge.

    My first reaction was disappointment – “Where's the rest?†Surely this improbably small packet couldn't be everything. Oh, but yes it was – by packing the CDs in individual cardboard sleeves and housing the lot in an attractive flip-top box, Brilliant Classics have come up with a package that is only 17.5cm (6.9â€Â) wide. By way of comparison, the complete organ works of Bach, by Marie-Claire Alain, 14 CDs in individual jewel cases in a cardboard slip case, is just over 15cm wide. I was worried about the problem of housing 60 new CDs – answer, no problem.

    Details of the cantatas are given in a booklet that slots in with the CDs. The booklet gives details of the individual CDs and has a concordance in BWV number order, so that you can find your favourites easily. The texts of the cantatas are only in German, but this is no great hassle for a fan, who can go to the Cantatas website for a translation.

    So, what are they like? In a word (two actually), very good. I started off by spinning two favourites, BWV140 “Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme†and BWV147 “Herz und Mund und Tat und Lebenâ€Â. Leusink opts generally for safe middle ground when it comes to interpretation and tempi, but no harm in that. The textures of the choruses are clean and clear and trumpeter Susan Williams handles the obbligato in the opening chorus of BWV147 very nicely. Soprano Ruth Holton has an almost boyish tone, which I like a lot. So I had to try the virtuoso solo cantata BWV51 “Jauchet Gott in allen Landenâ€Â, and she carried it off very well – not the polish of the virtuoso singer, but a nice performance. Indeed, somehow the fact that the singing is NOT absolute top-drawer is one of the appeals. It's just as my friend Eisenach (fellow cantata collector) over in Hi-Fi Choice said – the “element of danger†adds something to it. And, given that Bach had to write, rehearse and perform the cantata in a week, and generally without virtuoso performers, he clarly lived very dangerously indeed.

    CD1 has a great lineup, the great Lutheran battle hymn BWV80 “Ein feste Burg ist unser Gottâ€Â, the reflective BWV82 “Ich habe genug†and the Advent cantata BWV61 “Nun komm, der Heiden Heilandâ€Â. It was here that I had my first surprise – the familiar trumpets and drums of BWV80 (added by eldest son Wilhelm Friedmann) were gone! Yet so convincingly was it done that their absence didn't detract from the performance.

    The bass aria of BWV82, “Schlummert ein, ihr matten Augen†is one of the most beautiful Bach wrote – it made me go all misty-eyed the first time I ever heard it, and back then I hadn't the faintest idea what the words meant! Here it is given a nice treatment. I must say that the recordings do catch the solo voices very nicely. Just listen to that boyish soprano of Ruth Holton in BWV61's “Öffne dich, mein ganzes Herze†– lovely!

    So, how do they compare with the others? I've only had time to do one A/B comparison, with Gardiner in the short Whitsun cantata BWV34 “O ewiges Feuer, O Ursprung der Liebeâ€Â. Gardiner, who seems at his best with the festive cantatas, gives a bright, polished, professional performance that Leusink's forces have no hope of matching – after all, who can match the Monteverdi Choir? However, Leusink and Co. are not THAT far behind, and there's something endearing to the slightly less competent, rougher performance. It's back to Eisenach's element of danger again – you just know that Gardiner's folk can perform miracles on command. I can imagine the cantatas performed in Bach's day sounding very much like Leusink's. They would certainly NOT have sounded like Gardiner's.

    My goal of collecting all the cantatas has finally been achieved. Mind you, if Gardiner ever releases his complete Cantata Pilgrimage performances, I'd be sorely tempted. I worry myself – I find myself already trying to justify it. Perhaps I'll be able to do so by the time they come – if ever; after all, how many complete cantata sets can the market stand? Already we have Rilling and Harnoncourt/Leonhardt and now Leusink, with Suzuki on the way, and presumably still Koopmann (privately, as Erato has stopped its involvement).

    So, overall, a very good buy. The original instruments have a nice “edge†to them and are well played, the voices are pleasant and not overly virtuosic, and the textures are crisp and clear. At EUR 77.57, this set is a giveaway. And I've barely scratched the surface! Soooooooo much good listening to go! I shall now go and give myself the audio equivalent of square eyeballs.
     
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    A lot of work and a truly excellent post, Tones. I agree with most of what you say concerning the value of the different approaches.

    I'd have much to comment, but I'm somewhat short of time today. Let me just make two comments:

    First, Canatata BWV 21 is also very beautiful and a good introduction to his work. The Suzuki rendering (with the trombones at the end) is very interesting and exciting.

    I would also suggest Actus Tragicus, no. 104. There are many versions available - Teldec, Gardiner, Suzuki, Rifkin, Cantus Köln and Richter. I particularly like the incredible religiosity and mysticism of Richter (with the unique tenor Ernst Haefliger).

    Also, and featuring a particularly good sound, the record of Cantus Köln (one singer per part, but much better than Rifkin) of the early cantatas (Harmonia Mundi) deserves a listen.


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    There is a world of a difference between the early and the late cantatas. I myself prefer the early ones - more mystical, more intense, and less elegant. The two main ones are BWV 106, Actus tragicus, and 4, Christ lag in Todesbanden.

    So perhaps it is in order to recommend three particular records of these works.

    The Koopman and Suziki series is chronological so if you buy vol I of Erato and vols I, II of Bis, you will have them. There was a recentent recording of this repertoire by Cantus Köln, truly outstanding (Harmonia Mundi). BWV 4 and 106 are available by Richter in economical series (two separate records). There are also records by Joshua Rifkin.

    For an impressively tragic reading of both, go for Richter. He has first rate singers - Fischer-Dieskau and Ernst Häfliger - and his style, very intense does wonders for these pieces.

    Cantus Köln gives us a minimalist reading of these pieces (and all the other early cantatas): one singer and one player per part. There is much less intensity and tragedy than in Richter, but it is very well sung and extremely well put together.

    Rifkin is also a minimalist - as a matter of fact, he was the one who originally put the idea forward - but much less virtuoso. I nevertheless like his recordings, because they are extremely simple, unaffected and direct. If the music is tragic he lets it express itself, but doesn't emphasize it. In a way this is frustrating. But it can also be rather moving.

    Suzuki's is a very religious man and his performances really shine - Bach becomes religious music again, and it is really quite marvelous. Among the recent versions I would definitely go for his recordings. They are intense but in a much less somber a very different way from Richter. It is the exultation of a positive faith, rather than the expression of an oppressive power from God. A liberating God, New Testament, not an oppressive, Old Testament one.

    Koopman is, to my mind, rather irregular. I think he tries to let each musician express himself, and doesn't impose a cohesive vision. This is particularly evident when one listens to the very different kind of ornamentation of the singers and the Continuo. All in all, a so so affair.

    I'd like to add that, even if I don't like the solo records of Suzuki and find his St Mathew and St. John rather median, I think he brings freshness and religion back to Bach.
     
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    Tones,

    I just wanted to leave a "thank you" note for the Leusink information. I just placed an order yesterday. Keep it coming, mate!

    Joongul
     
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    A pleasure!
     
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    I've just found that the Leusink set is not so "complete" as I thought - but this appears to depend on your definition of "complete". I finally got around to listening to (and watching) the Gardiner Cantata DVD, which includes performances of BWV113, 179 and 199, the last-named ("Mein Herz schwimmt in Blut"), a solo cantata, being the best-known of the three and sung (beautifully) by the Czech soprano Magdalena Kozená. Lovely performances - I hope they do release the whole set someday.

    In the documentary on the Pilgrimage, they end up in New York, and you get to see part of the last stirring chorus of the New Year cantata BWV190 "Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied". So I eagerly pulled out Leusink to hear his version - and there wasn't one! Poo!!! Why not? Perhaps because BWV190 is not complete - the first two movements are invariably reconstructions. This would go along with the missing trumpets and drums of BWV80 (put in by Wilhelm Friedmann Bach after his father's death). But, on the other hand, BWV192 "Nun danket alle Gott" (Now thank we all our God), of which only three movements exist, is in the Leusink set. Because it has one of the most famous of all Lutheran chorale tunes? Who knows?

    P.S. I've found that Harnoncourt also omits BWV190 for that reason. A complete set of vocal parts for BWV190 exists, but all the instrumental parts for the first two are missing, and the other instrumental parts are fragmentary. Still, I'm glad Gardiner included it, because it makes such a stirring finish. And the look on Gardiner's face as he completes the Pilgrimage is something else - a sort of combination of relief and satisfaction in a job well done. He even seems to look up at the figure of Christ on the wall opposite him and say, "Thank You"!
     
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    This is getting bad. I find I'm using Leusink to identify candidates for purchase of better versions! Another sale in Hug didn't help - Suzuki and Herreweghe cantatas at a good price bookshop in Zürich's main station was selling off old Rilling versions at SFr5.50 (about £2.30) each. Couldn't resist...
     
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    Hi Tones,

    a few weeks ago I bought in ebay the complete Bach Cantatas with Rilling, 100 LPs most of them mint, for 100€.

    I haven't started heaing them... Let us know what you think about the CD you have bought.
     
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    Hi, Titian. While Rilling wouldn't be my first choice, he at least loved the cantatas and provided the first complete recording of them. But €100? A bargain!!

    On the negative side, some of the recordings are quite old and a bit on the "rich" side, certainly compared with the later original instrument recordings. However, Rilling's still MUCH better than Karl Richter! (This is no disrespect to Richter, who was a great Bachian, he is just very ponderous and a little pompous). Of course, when Rilling started recording cantatas in the 1960s, there was no original instrument scene, and his later interpretations were guided by the new insights thrown up by the original instruments movement.

    On the positive side, there are many wonderful performances and great soloists. The soprano was often the outstanding Arleen Auger. SOme of the Rilling performances are among my favourites. BWV129, for example - I haven't heard a better performance, with the three Läubin brothers and their soaring trumpet lines in the first and last chorale. I was listening to the Rilling BWV190 the other night - this is a New Year cantata with a splendid finale (and the final thing played by John Eliot Gardiner in the final concert of his 2000 Cantata Pilgrimage - the DVD makes me wish he would release it!). Anyway, the Rilling is (if you'l pardon the corny rhyme) thrilling. Try this one first!! His versions of the great cantatas (140, 147, 80, 82) are also good.

    So, while he has been surpassed in this repertoire by more recent artists, notably Gardiner, Herreweghe and Suzuki, his versions remain enjoyable. And the likes of the others see so much further than he, because they're standing on his shoulders.
     
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    Hi there

    As a relative newbie to cantatas I was wondering if the Japanese Suzuki recordings would be a good place to start, I ask as a shop in Gothenburg seems to be selling quite a few of them from the same set, (how many did they produce?) at a quite a low price.

    The next question of course would be which one to start with?

    On a separate note are there any good books worth reading on choral works that give an appreciation into the music the history and structure/technique behind them. As an example I have Denis Formans The Good Opera Guide which has help me with Opera and I find it to be both informative and light hearted enough to pick up and read.

    Thanks for time taken already on this thread.
     
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    Hi, Philip. I think the Suzuki cantatas are excellent. They're currently up to volume 25 now, and the intention is to do them all. Given that two series have already fallen by the wayside (Gardiner and Koopman, although I think Koopman is persisting with private means), I hope they continue, because the standard has been very high.

    I have 10 of the series, and the ones I like are Vol.2, which combines the joyful BWV 71 "Gott ist mein König" with the mournful BWV 106 "Actus Tragicus", and Vol.21, which features the beautiful BWV 65 "Sie werden aus Saba alle kommen" and the partly reconstructed but glorious New Year's cantata BWV 190 "Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied", whose final chorus is worth the price alone.

    I don't know any books in English, but try the Bach cantatas website (link in my long intro mail above) - it's full of interesting details and discussions.
     
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    Hi Phillip.

    I too, would recommend Suzuki rather highly. As for what to get, you need to know he recorded the cantatas in the order of their composition. So the first CDs represent the archaic Bach - absolutely wonderful - and so forth. I'd personally get no 1, 2, 3, 4 and then some of your favorites.

    I have up to vol 16 or whereabouts. It is always rather good.

    As to books, there is a rather good one, but it is in French. It is called Guide de la Musique Sacrée et Chorale Profane . It was edited by Edmond LeMaitre and published by Fayard, Paris.

    It is not technical - well, there are musical examples but even if you don't read music that is OK, they are not essential - and is very clearly organized: each piece is clearly explained. The book is organized by authors and then by works. 828 pages of small but very readable print.
     
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    Thanks for all the help so far guys,

    Having finally gotten into town with some quality CD shopping time I selected, (shock horror :eek: ),
    a collection of famous cantatas, 3 CD's and a CD ROM of interesting Bach related data. For such a large volume of work like the cantatas I thought that a selection, (of the best?) would be a useful introduction.

    Having listened to a couple of the CD's I can say that I will be starting a collection of Bach's cantatas, as they are simply wonderful.

    Thanks for all your help,

    Philip
     
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    Hi, Philip, some great cantatas there. But is BWV 56 so good (and it is one of the greats) that it gets on twice, or is that a misprint?

    I like Philippe Herreweghe's cantatas (well, let's face it, I like nearly everyone's).

    BWV 82 is a particular favourite of mine. If I recall correctly, BWV 198 is more a motet than a cantata (for the funeral of a local duchess (Fürstin)), but it's commonly included among the funeral cantatas along with BWV 106 "Actus Tragicus" (IIRC Gardiner includes it on the CD with BWV 106).

    Happy listening!
     
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    That is a good question.

    CD 1 has BWV 198 and BWV 78
    CD 2 has BWV 82, BWV 56 and BWV 158
    CD 3 has BWV 21 and depending on what part of the accompanying literature you read either BWV 42 or BWV 56.

    Looking at the track info CD 3's BWV 56 it is considerably longer and contains a Sinfonia and Choral Duetto more than the CD 2's version of BWV 56. So I think that it could be a misprint and in fact it is BWV 42.

    Either way it's all rather good.

    Just need to find a way to create a full sized church sound in my front room now!

    Philip
     
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    You need to altar the acoustics
     
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    Without actually sacrificing anything in the process...
     
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    well,i am gonna honour the hard work that Tones put in by making a purchase of his main recommendation

    Gardiners 140 and 147

    And i found a great shop that is cheaper than Amazon!

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    thabk you for the 140/147 recommendations

    not really my taste,well it wasn't,but i am glad i have bought them.Very very good
     
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    A guy in work has a sideline in old gramophone records. He loaned my some very old cantata recordings from the 1950s, made by Vanguard for the Bach Guild. The artists involved were the Choir of the Bach Guild and the Vienna State Opera Orchestra, conducted by Felix Prohaska. And, yes, they're mono.

    It's often said, "they don't make them like this any more". To which I say, in this case, "Thank goodness!" Recording technique has certainly improved since then. These Vanguard recordings vary between OK and pretty dire, the latter with muffled, closed-in sound and poor balance (with the trumpets in BWV80 "Ein feste Burg" sounding as if they were in the supermarket next door). Quite different was a 1959 mono Archiv recording by Karl Richter of BWV 8 and 45 - it was as good as any modern recording, so the Vanguards must have been particularly poor. Perhaps in those far-off days near enough was good enough for Bach cantata lovers.

    The actual performances are not bad. The voices are naturally operatic (this was long before the change in the style of baroque performance), but are not bad at that. And it's nice to see that somebody cared for this music 'way back then.
     
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