Vinyl lies on the BBC

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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    Tell you what,

    Im getting pissed off with absolute crap being written about vinyl from the great unwashed.

    Specifically....

    1) Telly programme about modern inventions. Cant remember the name, Im sorry.

    Dont know if anyone saw it, but there was this chap talking all about modern inventions, and then he came to the CD...

    It started out alright... talking about binary code (os and 1s etc) and then...

    there was this guy playing guitar in country and western garb all hopping about....

    ''Now with vinyl'' the fool began, ''what happens is the image distorts, and what you get is this....''

    the guy dissapears, and re-appears in black and white, all mashed up picture fading out playing his guitar.

    ''But with CD, the image is digitised, so what you get out the other end is perfect!''

    And there is our friendly thwat the country guitarist, strumming away in person, just a normal camera shot.


    !!!!!!!!! and this the BBC, flockwits, I tell you, flockwits.

    2) The science museum

    Took my little boy today to the science museum.

    Classic! I was loving it, there was a section on vinyl, it had old valve kit in there, an old SME arm and all sorts of kit...

    I was having a dewy eyed dream until I got to the fact cards...

    it started on about CD replacing LP and we got this gem..

    ''Now with CD, you can have perfect sound''

    FFS!!!!
    This is a MUSEUM and its STILL full of crap!! How can a national MUSEUM get its facts wrong?!

    Im sorry, but this is just lazy journalism, and organisations such as museums and the BBC really should be better than that.

    Maybe Alistair Campbell had a point


    Chris
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    amazingtrade Mad Madchestoh fan

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    Its a case of Joe Blocks believing what he wants to. Many consumer turntbables of the 80's were utter crap, made of plastic and couldn't even track properly (remember the cheap nasty linear tracking ones from the jap majors?).

    And then CD came out which was more expensive but was made better and was marketed well. On a basic system you can't here all the goodness vynil has to offer, all you here different from CD is pops and crackles.

    With CD on cheap budget systems the sound was clean and crackle free. Joe Bloggs confuses this with sound quality.

    It wasn't until I got my Project that I realised just what vynil has to offer, and now I have 30 LPs, this time last year I had two.

    To get back to the point this whole ignorance of the general dixons influenced public annoys me. From people spending £500 on a peice of plastic which sounds awful to people that think CD is the next best thing.

    I like CD for its convience but for sound quality I much much prefer vynil, as with vynil I can here the music, I don't give a second thought to how the music is being made.

    Vynil will never die, in 50 years time many people will still be using turntables (unless digital sampling rates improve so much they seemlessly flow).

    So to conclude in my experience a very cheap CD player sounds better than a very cheap and nasty (I am talking about Matsui, Alba here!) turntable but when you start going to mid range budget stuff then vynil starts to shine.

    I remember the science museum in Manchester having a Marantz amp on display ( a 70's model) and it said this was typical of how large HIFI systems were in the 70's! Well its much smaller than mine and I am in 2003! I must admit speakers are some what smaller now! Thank god
     
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    sideshowbob Trisha

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    It's all part of a digitalian conspiracy, you know. They also shot JFK and Martin Luther King, started both world wars, and built Celine Dion in a laboratory out of old eastern european tank parts. They're evil, I tell you.

    -- Ian
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    Oh shite busted :( really thought we'd get away with for a few more years bugger !!!!, and oh yes Aliastar cambell was one of us too :D
     
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    I-S Good Evening.... Infidel

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    Hey, we only built Celine Dion to fight back against barbara streisand!
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    ian,
    we're also involved in roswell / area 51 and were lurking around the bay of pigs too... oops, gotta kill you now :D

    cheers


    julian
     
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    MO! MOnkey`ead!

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    you all just broke the first second and third rules!

    There is no digitalian conspiracy ;)
     
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    lowrider Live music is surround

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    Their sepia filter is not properly setup, maybe they need a new cable... ;)
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    Ive calmed down a bit now!

    Did you know they built a special stage for Celine Dion in a hotel in Vegas? (true story).

    I reckon they must have told her its a thriving city, whilst secretly thinking its stuck in the middle of the desert miles from anywhere..

    MAybe we should have a poll about the most hated artist ... unfortunate thing is, there is just too damn many of the buggers!

    first up in the firing line for me would be the celebrities and judges of 'fame accademy' and 'popstars' to really irradicate chart pap, we need to go for a head shot on those who promote it..

    :laser:
     
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    tones compulsive cantater

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    I wouldn't mind a tiny fraction of her Vegas fee! And, yes, it is a thriving city. I still don't quite believe the place, but it gets people in. I reckon that 20% come to gamble and 79.5% come to gawp - and the other 0.5%, like ourselves, went to see "Star Trek: the Experience" in the Vegas Hilton.
     
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    lowrider Live music is surround

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    You have nor heard the Portuguese versions of Celine Dion, and Tom Jones, you'd puck... :chunder:

    I have nothing against the above singers, as long as they don't play all day... :rolleyes:
     
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    rob SCHMOOOOKIN

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    is Celine Dion a singer? i thought she was a red rum lookalike.
     
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