Vinyl vs Digital

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    michaelab desafinado

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    I think Julian summed this up nicely is his previous post: "the kind of bollocks that a 3rd rate magazine such as what hi-fi would spout when they have a vinyl special issue." ;)

    Michael.
     
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    merlin

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    Bah:mad:

    You do realise that if it wasn't for CD driving the entire western world to a state of despair, we'd not be in the Middle East fighting.

    One minute we have hippies listening to Hendrix on vinyl whilst promoting love and peace, the next, they are monopolising the world's economy, controlling the media and excelling as warmongerers.

    Don't tell me CD's got nothing to do with that, or you will lose all credibility!
     
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    joel Shaman of Signals

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    Funny thing is, this could happen. Now wouldn't that be funny.
     
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    tones compulsive cantater

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    Cluster bombs full of CDs to reduce the enemy to the same state of despair?
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    Problem is mike is set up properly, and maybe by a friend of yours did the setting up ;) I have never been sent to sleep so convincingly, it truely has a great future with insomniacts R us, coupled with Ultopias a mind numbingly great sound, might be a bit dear for an off the shelf sleep cure though :rolleyes:
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    It won't happen though. It won't be long before CD is the new vinyl - the preserve of a few audiophiles :MILD: .

    merlin, if your scenario came true then they wouldn't bother with high quality recordings either because the "plebs" wouldn't be able to tell the difference on their 64Kbps MP3s and no one would give a toss about a handful of audiophiles with a black pastic fetish so you can have the heaviest pressings you like but they won't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear ;)

    Michael.
     
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    merlin

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    No Need, just play them back over Chinooks equipped with nasty digital amplifiers and JM Labs unspeakerbles!!

    But sadly the Western mind has forgotten the road to true happiness and does not realise the destructive capabilities of the Compact Disc:JOEL:
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    Hmm...you must be talking about those American hippes listening to Hendrix on vinyl whilst taking a rest from reducing North Vietnam to rubble :rolleyes:

    Michael.
     
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    merlin

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    Hey Michael,

    it hasn't stopped people making art, just that it fetches a high premium given it's limited market.
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    Totally incorrect analogy I'm afraid :) . The plebs don't buy art in any form, it's exclusively a premium market.

    Popular music, by definition, is bought by many people so the latest Madonna or Nitin Sawhney album would be recorded in a way suitable for the majority of its audience which, in your scenario, would be using low bit MP3s so the audiophiles would be stuffed.

    The high quality recordings would likely be reserved for jazz and classical.

    Michael.
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    Intellecitalism at it's finest :D Getting a lot of that here most enlightening :cool:
     
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    technobear Ursine Audiophile

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    Mike, you're starting to sound like Peter Belt :rolleyes:
     
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    penance Arrogant Cock

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    Vinyl is better tho:D
     
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    merlin

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    Funny that Michael. I can buy a giclee print of a Juan Carlos Ferrigno work for £80, a cheap poster of it from Athena for £20. The original, or the limited signed print run, is of course considerably dearer and more sought after.

    Oh pluys the resolution is of course far deeper, and the original is truly art that can be apreciated on more than a superficial level.
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    I'd never heard of Peter Belt so I Googled it and found his home page:

    www.belt.demon.co.uk

    :ffrc: :ffrc: - that guy is seriously not playing with a full deck of cards. The fact that some people claim to hear differences though says a lot about the placebo effect in auditioning hifi though :torkmada:

    Michael.
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    You still don't get it.....you see, in the music biz, the Athena poster is the original, it's the master tape and it's controlled by the money grabbing record companies who have no interest in anything of a higher quality.

    Unless musicians are prepared to make their own high quality premium recordings then we'll always be left with the recordings fit for the lowest common denominator. Whilst the big record companies are in control though that's unlikely to happen.

    Michael.
     
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    merlin

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    Michael, you don't get it do you!

    No need for naff sounding CD's - they cost money to press!!!

    Downloads at crappy rates charged out at £10 an album to the mass ignorenti who don't deserve better.

    Limited edition vinyl for people who truly like their music "au natural", strictly say 10,000 worldwide at £100 per disc.

    Make music something to treasure again:) Never will be as long at the dreaded silicon svengalis get their filthy hands on it:mad:
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    merlin,
    so you'd pay 100 quid for an mp3 on vinyl would you? hmm i may just have some land in florida or perhaps a bridge or two that may interest you...
    cheers


    julian
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    I know what you're driving at merlin but it will never happen as long as the record companies are in control. Why would they bother with high quality recordings if the mass ignorenti (who will be making 95% of their revenues) are just going to use low bit MP3?

    The only high quality recordings we'd end up with are the handful of audiophile labels (Chesky etc) and a few independents covering a pretty small range of music.

    Michael.
     
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    domfjbrown live & breathe psy-trance

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    Ah - the highest quality media for the most boring music...

    :duck:

    As for the Soundburger, I don't reckon that would work - it'd still skip while you're walking along ;)
     
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