wankers anyone?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3051117952&category=3272&rd=1

 

£245 - thats a bit steep for an IC. Jeesus, some people will pay anything.
EPay never ceases to amaze me.

 

yeah crazy ones

 

My that does seem very steep. If this is the cost of componants why do people moan at the price of hifi gear?

 

That is utter bollox. SAA7220s are as common as muck. There's one sitting in pretty much every Marantz or Philips CD player ever made - the same goes for the TDA1541. I don't know what made the "double crown" version special but it can't have been that different to the original. Some people really are mugs of the highest order.

Michael.

 

the 1541 is a multibit converter. converters of this type rely on very carefully matched resistors in order to turn a 16 bit binary number into an analog voltage. due to the nature of manufacture the quality of different chips from the same multi-chip die can vary greatly from nominal. the crown and double crown versions have the resistor network as well as other components closer to perfect than the standard version. this means you get an output voltage that is closer to the binary number fed into the chip.
is it worth 250 squids? well it obviously was to someone. were they a pillock? possibly but if they are happy then good luck to 'em.

cheers


julian

 

He does say that Marantz were offering it as an upgrade for £1000. Might be resonable it this is true.

 

"A peice of cake that takes only a few minuets"

Bach would be proud.

 

Bach made cakes?

 

No, but he wrote minuets

Michael.

 

I heard he made a lovely sponge too...

 

Blind faith?

Because, for instance, it's difficult to get your head round how something with a parts cost of around £500 (XPS2 for example) sells for £2300, or why Naim charge £265 for a new Burndy when the only difference over the old one is a different earth connection. Some of them even have the directional markers round the wrong way! You also get sweet FA for the old one. I think some of us are fully entitled to a moan now and then.

Mind you, because your head's so far up Naim's arse these days, garyi, you wouldn't dream of criticising them would you? Loyalty to the cause since the deal on the 52 eh?

Marco.

 

oh.



funny




well done Rory

 

be fair enuff if it was, but dac chips are about 15-20squid...maybe a selected top one will cost a little more...

and I do like the naim sound, but why does say a 135 cost twice than a 250,

250= case, transformer, capacitors, 2 amplifier pcbs, 2 regulator pcbs.

135= case, transformer, capacitors, 1 amp pcb, 1 reg..

that means you pay an xtra 1600 for a case and transformer and 2 capacitors!!..

thats what £100 for a case, £50 a tranny, and the same for the caps...they are making ooooh ....at least 1000 quid....I like naim sound but daylight robbery bugs mucho.......naim and shaim

 

data,
yup the 135's are a bit of a rip, even 2nd hand it's cheaper to go for 2 250's rather than a pair of 135's. however the 135's were phenominally popular amps so the market could obviously bare the price and i suspect in part the money gained pays for things like keeping stocks of obsolete components to service older kit, r&d for the reference / 5 / 500 series components, keeping the lower end kit at a 'reasonable' price. also the fact that naim is still around whilst so many of their contemporaries are either no longer about or have been bought out and are now made in asia. also you seem to have forgotten to include perhaps the most expensive component in your assessment of thier cost - labour, you're paying for twice the labour which in the uk isn't cheap either - although admittedly not enough to warrant such a large cost discrepancy.
cheers


julian

 

Don't forget also that dealers want 40% margins so that's 40% of the retail price right there

Michael.