[QUOTE=Saab]all very true Leonard,a remapped 4x4 Octavia is a great car for the money,but a bog standard Impreza would leave it for dead.[/QUOTE] You should have a look at [url=http://www.briskoda.net/forums/article.php?a=39]THIS[/url].. If you look further into the website you'll find folks who are getting 180mph out of their Octavias, and 5 seconds to 60mph!!!!