water divining

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    The Devil IHTFP

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    The rational view to take is that there is no evidence whatsoever that dowsing works, and since dowsers have a vested interest (for commercial gain and/or to avoid looking foolish) in perpetuating the myth that it does work, their input on the topic can be dismissed as false propaganda.
     
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    lAmBoY Lothario and Libertine

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    "forces at play we have yet to define scientifically"

    I hate that viewpoint, like a dumb forcefield it helps perpetuate myths/horseplops.
     
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    Quote : Horses were used to locate water underground. They were used during the Ottoman Empire to discover water pipelines in surrounding castles. This was done by leaving the horses without water for several days, then walking the horses around the castle; the horses would kick the ground when there were water pipelines below. The Ottomans would then cut the water supply to the defending armies. The wild horses would then dig up water with their hooves and expose natural underground water systems ...eq




    A horse's body contains between 65 to 75 percent water, the difference depending on age body fat and muscle mass.
    Babies are made up of 78% water (been wallowing) and after 12 months dropping to around 65%. Grown men being made up of 60% water and women as their bodies are fattier being 55%, fatter people have a lesser percentage of water than their leaner brothers and sisters The brain is composed of 70 percent water, lungs 90%..and blood 83%.

    A dowsing rod stemming from the Osage-Orange (7.66% water) may not be as helpful as Buckeye (52.87%) or Basswood (54.95%).


    drawn to water... not so mysterious..imho :)
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Um.... slightly difficult to follow, but you appear to have come up with a rather bizarre theory in order to explain a phenomenon which doesn't actually exist! In a similar way, can you explain how the stork delivers babies?
     
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    spica

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    interesting question Luci.... i would hazard a guess that somewhere along the line the Stork ate Torsk fish.
    The first fish apparently appeared on earth around 500 million years ago (ostracoderms) and are also thought to be the first animals to have a backbone..they gave rise to vertebrates.
    The Stork feeling beholden to the ostracoderm (on a deeply subconcsious level) for it's legs.. felt the need to somehow connect with the fishes, so it ate them..in order to perpetuate it's misplaced thanks and to have more babies that will eat more fish. :D
     
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    Good answer Spica...!


    :D




    Devil....I actually haven't come up with ANY of this ;)

    .......like I say I wasn't here 2000 years ago. :)
     
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    My comment above, and quoted from by others, is not my 'answer', but merely my opinion on the sorts of answers that the OP is likely to have received.
     
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    lAmBoY Lothario and Libertine

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    are you suggesting water is attracted to water? A new type of magnetic field? More horseplops.
     
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    I considered it to be a very reasonable, even posting, CC.
     
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    just that.. as with many creatures, under certain extremes certain senses are enhanced..if one with ease, learns to summon this ability so to reconnect with what may be lost or perhaps to find and nurture it through concentration/examination.. then the level that we take for granted as being fixed may be no less than a stepping stone toward total unboundedness.
     
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    lAmBoY Lothario and Libertine

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    and by 'certain extremes' you mean a man holding 2 bits of wood ?

    Would this be an electromagnetic force? Please advise as you may be suggesting a new force that science hasn't encountered! Thus elevating you to mega scientist level 10 with knobs on.
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Conditions inside Richard Dawkins' tent were far too comfy for those hardened diviners.
     
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    more meant evenly balanced than restriction.. takes all sorts .

    You mean Oxy-magnetic ?.. think their already on it , though i do know a MR. Magnotron :)

    http://www.ionizationx.com/amasci.com/freenrg/wassrmag.html
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    This is what is known as "word salad".
     
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    just for you Luci...eg: the horses mentioned in post 103 were enslaved (restricted) and starved (restricted) of water thus they restricted anything but the senses that would enhance their chance of survival. Under so-called normal circumstances there would be little need to restrict themselves..especially with an always overflowing trough/nose bag though perhaps then their senses gradually decrease in intensity , though Free and wild, without allowing the natural balance within that nature gives, the ability for all senses to operate evenly and nearer their peak capacity... would cease to exist, as they would.

    If an individual holding a stick helps them travel the journey of enhancement, then who is anyone to restrict it.
     
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    So did the horses use bent bits of wire and walk on their back legs in order to find water? And do humans need to be very thirsty in order to find water????
     
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    Spica, I really appreciate you taking the trouble to support me.....but I'm afraid any arguements put forward are going to be ridiculed and belittled.

    I would save your breath!

    Thanks again.




    (for whats its worth any tool a dowser uses are just that.........tools........used to amplify muscular reactions. To that end I dare say the horse COULD dowse if it knew what it was looking for ....and was able to stand on its hind legs:))
     
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    Would that be a bit like Quantum Theory, then? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/02/980227055013.htm

    Maybe dowsing is a quantum sort of thing?
     
    Graffoeman, Mar 6, 2009
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    Yep, but i think slightly less useful.
     
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    We don't b****y know!!


    :)


    Know one really knows for sure how it works!


    One thing I as told when I started was that is should be used creatively for important issues. This may well expalin why certain TV prog mentioned have not shown results but, again, I ve discussed that.





    That may well be so, Andy.

    Undisputed.
     
    DavidF, Mar 6, 2009
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