Why the probelm with large English brand names?

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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Seems rather more Merlin-like to me.
     
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    Again James - always on the defensive!

    Why not try to answer the questions? It may well prove more enlightening than constant bitchiness.
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Go and re-read fox's post about RT 60 times in studios.

    It looks nice. Very high WAF.

    You have lost me on that one. You HAVE heard the recording we made, haven't you?
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    Good Afternoon campers, nice to see such frivolity prevailing here on a glorious sunny day, clouds a buzzing along & people are smiling, prehaps James maybe you could too
     
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    Sorry Bub, but if your room exhibits a nice natural reverb on recordings, it does follow that you will also hear that contribution when listening. Your room was seemingly chosen for the contribution it could make to an acoustic recording. For accurate reproduction, your room should be inaudible to all intents and purposes, would you not agree?
     
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    Morning Tone,
    Hows you on this fine day?

    I will be mostly sanding shelves in the graden!
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    No, that would be an anechoic chamber.

    Have you or have you not heard the recording?

    Have you or have you not visited me and heard my system?
     
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    No James,

    Again if you listen nearfield in a well treated room, the result will be you listening almost entirely to direct radiated sound - and accurate portrayal of the recorded media. This is certainly not the case sitting far field in a room that has a personality.

    Whilst I would agree that RT-60 measurements have little worth in the domestic enviroment below say 200hz (due to room modes generated by the small space), I would be only to happy to demonstrate the differences attributable to reverberation times above the bass region. In your place you can probably get a feel for it by closing the curtains!
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    Fine thanks Andy,

    It's a sorta plasma screen & speaker cable day, though the sun is shinning and I managed to squeeze 394LBs of torque out of the Alfa so pretty fair so fair sir
     
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    James,

    You know the answer is no to both of these, although this has little relevence to the point I am making

    It is not me who is claiming my system is the most accurate in the known universe and that most others sound broken. That is your contention I believe.

    All I am doing is using simple acoustic principles to demonstate that this is clearly not the case. I have demonstrated to you how the movement of your precious ATC's in the vertical axis can explain the gains you attribute to iron and mdf. I have alsoposed important questions with regards to your room acoustics that can aid or harm your assertions dependent on answers.

    But of course, you just keep answering questions with different ones - a rather primitive and transparent diversionary tactic if I may say so.

    Any chance you just might take on board some well established parameters and seek to learn from this or will you just continue to bury your head in the sand and provoke arguement at every opportunity?
     
    merlin, Sep 15, 2004
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    Tell us more about this ALFA Tone.
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    Tis a little black bestie I use to trot about the countryside in 2.4 Jtd (with extras')
    Lots of grunt (effortless) & 47 mpg even with max warp dialled in, not too tractor like either.
    I've got some more mapping planned as soon as the rollers are free for another session, Possibility of stretching here to a 2.8 as well. very promising Dev
     
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    Hmm 394ft lbs, bet that goes! I meant to ask at Isaacs, when I saw your Alfa with (IIRC) GSRMotorsport.com stickers on it I wondered what had been done to it. From the torque figure I'm presuming its a 2.4JTD?

    Going off topic here, but tbh I find cars more interesting than continued mud slinging going on here

    (Tooo slow, internet is uber slow here today for some reason...)
     
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    Tone, sounding good mate. Terrorising the locals again eh;)

    Will, tis slow here aswell.
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    Will,

    It is indeed a jtd, its quite respectable with the in gear times, not too shabby in the 0-100 stakes either.
     
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    Not really. To me 'an absence of bass' isn't the same as 'rolling the extreme bass off'.

    Paul
     
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    Theory. Followed by experiment.

    The ESL63 goes loud enough in my room to be dangerous to the hearing. And goes deep enough into the bass for that not to be an issue to me. And of course the rumbly 'atmos' effects on TV and film are adequately presented.

    So an 'improvement' would have to have no downside.

    Paul
     
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    You are mis-using acoustic principles which you don't appear to fully understand, trying to apply them to a room which you've never been in, to try to run-down a system you've never heard.

    Read your own signature once more. If you want to learn something, visit me.
     
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    This is in fact what I do. The speakers fire across the short axis of the room, and are about 12 or 13 feet away from the sofa.
     
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