Why the probelm with large English brand names?

You will find, to correct the above, that the company concerned advertised heavily in HF Choice throughout the period of the original "Raves". The advertising ceased around the time that said publication published a far less complimentry (and IMHO factual) review in a goup test in which it accused the product of adding resonance rather than removing it. Does make you wonder doesn't it?

 

Merlin, do you know anything about the personal politics behind HFC's disenchantment? One unfavourable review among so many raves, seems like an 'outlier' to me.

Can you give a link to this review?

If they were such big advertisers, how come no-one seems to have heard of them? Personally, I only came across Mana because of Mana enthusiasts on the Naim forum.

 

You might find this a surprise but I wasnt actually referring to Bub! I can see how this would offend if I were. I darent suggest there are any similarities - Bub is mild by comparison.

 

Ah. Thought you meant me. I've no idea where you live, but if near Glasgow, come hear the bleaching.

 

No politics I imagine Bub. Maybe so if it were a single poor review, but just listen to the poor experiences of many who have tried the miracle cure for themselves.

The existence so so many disenchanted enthusists on boards such as this suggests that the HiFi Choice review was at least as valid as any other. It's also worth remembering that the reviews on the company's site were written long before many of the products now used by former M*na enthusiasts came to market so are hardly relevent when weighing up options in the 21st century would you not agree?

 

You are so, so good at imagining things! You don't know the half of it.

How many? The minority, I would contend.

No, I wouldn't agree. Who are these former Mana enthusiasts?

 

I appreciate why you felt miffed. Any difference of opinion between you and I would very much be within the context of a gentlemanly. The guy I referred to is no gentleman and opinions on Mana are probably the least offensive aspect of his disagreeable attitude.

 

I've got a fair idea who you might mean, and if I'm right, I agree entirely.

 

Originally Posted by The Devil

Michael , I fully agree with you with regards to insults , but surely this is an insult as well . It may be slightly veiled , but , it,s still an insult .

I,m suprised nobody else has picked on the above . AK wasn,t that keen on the system, so ,he must have something wrong with either his hearing or the way he listens to music

Bub , I,m not going to get into a row , but your the one who keeps saying that no system will sound right unless it,s been mana,d .
You even graciously extend invites to people to come and listen to this uber system .
When people respond that they think it,s not to their taste , you then say that either they have an agenda or that they don,t listen properly (or that there is something wrong with their hearing)
You,ve got to face the facts that Mana may not be for everyone .
atb
richard

 

AK's description of my system was initially "like a Ferrari", which is odd, because it doesn't go anywhere.

When I pointed out his bass & midrange muddle, the description of my system's sound became far less flattering.

A normal human reaction, I suspect. Totally understandable

 

IMO the sound of The Devil's system is not defined by his Mana and AK is therefore not drawing conclusions about Mana.

I still don't know what a 'bleached texture' sounds like.

Paul

 

Honest your worship, I was proceeding along nicely, then all of a sudden without explanation it veered to one side and, before I knew it I had created another f***ing monster.

 

Well Ken, indirectly it perhaps answers your original question. I.e. it's all to do with personal prejudices or M***.

 

Fear not Ken, you're not the first and I suspect not the last

 

Of courese you would James - you are contentious if nothing else!

Just taking this forum as a representative example, I know of a good number of people who have tried the product and been distinctly underwhelmed. I only know of you really who still feels it represents decent value. This appears to mirror experiences on other boards, namely that the majority don't get on with the trick long term and find products that suit them better.

 

its a bloody stand, you stick your kit on it, end of story, doesn't affect the sound, only yer wallet

 

I think we need some of script in this forum, which automatically separates all Mana discussions into it's own thread.

It's no good saying if you like the subject don't bother reading because almost every good thread seems to generate into this farce .

 

Tis starting to turn ZG in a mana only debate area

 

Nordost and Omiga Audio can both point to tonnes of glowing testimonials too though, as can Russ Andrews, Chord, QED or indeed virtually anyone else. How can we tell which to believe and which not to?

 

By listening to them yourself. The reviews should IMO only be taken as a guide.