Yeah Mike makinhg litigious claims was stretching it, but just thought it should be mentioned.

Mike I'm not saying that measuring tells us nothing, yes it helps the engineers design the bloody things, but we are primarily listeners, so that is the most important measurement for us, to discuss electrical accuracy and such tells us not a lot as we can see by the arguments, rotel measures well, but those who have heard it say it's ok but not the last word.

If i bring the analogy back to cars, we can measure a cars BHP, Torque Top speed, lateral g etc, but that does not tell us how it feels to drive, does the feedback give enough info about the road and how the car handles, these are subjective based on the experiennce of the driver, why did you choose your car Mike?, BHP, Torque, 6 cylinders, 155MPH, no you bought it because you liked how it drove, I'm sure.

We can debate and argue till the cows come home, it doesn't matter how accurate or innacurate the kit is if we don't like the noises it makes.