your choice

nad S500i/S300 OR KRELL KAV 300i/Cyrus CD8?
My friend love warm sound and listen to pop/rock

 

NAD S300 - all the way, regardless of the type of music. It's head and shoulders above the rest which ever way you cut it.

EDIT: Just read your post properly, I thought you were just comparing amps at first. Anyway, I'd still go with S500i and S300 combo.

Michael.

 

Hi michael
It's hard to me for believing NAD be better than krell.
I had NAD C370 and it was not good for me, after upgrading to krell 300i sound changed and i love it.
I didnot listened to NAD S300.

Did you compared NAD S300 with krell kav 300i?

Thanks

 

Amir,

Michael is serious, the NAD is essentially the same amp as a gryphon tabu century which is very highly regarded.

FWIW, every Krell amp has sounded pretty uninspiring to these ears, and certainly not warm!

 

I will be happy if nad be warmer and more smooth because nad price in our country is lower than krell .

thanks

 

The S300 is a nice amp, but it requires careful partnering, and setup. I've heard nothing but good reports of the S500 CD player, but haven't actually heard one.

 

HFC say speakers with dry bass are better match for S300 and my friend love B&W . what's your idea?

 

I've heard both allthough not at the same time. The S300 sounds wonderful and the KAV 300i is just horrible to my ears. Harsh and unrefined.

Michael.

 

Very odd this I find myself agreeing with Mike on this Krell 300i/il pretty bloody dire, the 400's not much better even if the bass is big, and the 500 soon
Still I believe Krell can sound good (in a limited sense), I heard one do just that today a 600pfb stereo, although it had a little help

 

Krell = overpriced and underperforming - a slightly less blatant con than Bang & Olufsen

NAD = good VFM and decent sound - even in their Silverline territory.

If you want a Krell sound at a fraction of the price, get a midi system, and paint a wall and watch that dry while listening to the midi system (just kidding!).

 

I have the S500/S300 combo and it quite simply kicks ass. I haven't heard everything in the price range, but it would have to be pretty special to beat the NAD.

Edited to add:

Do not compare the C370 with the S300 - they are different in every way imaginable. The S300 is not your average NAD.

 

What he said - I've never been any less than gobsmacked at how truly underwhelming their stuff is.

 

Here we go again, the famous audiophile pet hates, Krell and Wilson... :chunder:

 

They are designed for cloth-eared Americans with big wallets and even bigger egos

 

Not only, not only... :newbie:

 

Amir,

I have to say that Michael is spot on with his comments - the NAD Silverlines (not to be confused with ordinary NADs such as the C370) rock big-time. The S500 & S300 combo are perhaps one of the best arguments for matching components from the same stable. I haven't heard the Cyrus CD8 but if the CD7 was anything to go by, then in combination with the Krell 300i, the music will take a back seat, if you get my drift.

One thing about these Krell amps (especially the integrateds) is their power supply section which those in the know here in Lawrieville say is quite poor for the money they are charging. However, modification and filter modules placed on the inside of the amps can make the Krell amps play music and lose the harshness. So don't let the name NAD put you off - try the Silverline range and hear the difference.




Enjoy the music,

Lawrie.

 

B&Ws tend to rather like a bit of welly to get them going, and both the krell and the NAD will deliver.

However, the "synergy" of B&W and the Krell 300 could be.... interesting. Both can verge into harshness, and the result could be pretty painful.

I use the S300 with meadowlark speakers, and the result (after some time spent messing with room layouts) is very natural, solidly tuneful and extremely listenable. You can run it at high volume for a very long time without noticing... it's not fatiguing. But that's not to say that it lacks life. It's pretty lively, although not as outright as, say, WM's system.

 

Well Krell bashers.

I currently own the KAV300i + a number of other bits and pieces. It's very impressive, has great clarity, awesome detail and great imaging. The power amp section is the true bargain with the pre being the bright part that everyone talks about. It isn't a lush amplifier but then again it's not supposed to be.

I don't think you're being fair, if you got a system match wrong with the Krell it'd sound dreadful.

Ah well.... maybe I'll pick up a NAD and see if all the hype is justified!

 

I've a better Idea Tim, why not take round to Iasscs, he lives very close to you, see how it compares on his Ketrals, then try em on your Mirages.
I feel it would produce interesting results

 

Is that close before or after the move? If before, you'll have to be quick and forgive the mess... if after, you'll be welcome!