Thanks again Zanash for coming over yesterday afternoon with your bag of goodies. It was a very enjoyable time swapping things around and listening to differant music. After all the cables had been connected Zanash and myself heard a noticable change in the sound. Instruments and singers had come forward out of the darkness(thats only the way i can describe it) and gave a fuller and more dynamic range. More emotion to guitars was the most impression to me. When the dac went in i thought that gave the guitar body. I wasnt listening to the strings being plucked the body of the guitar was appearing in front of me. Now i am looking into dacs which i never thought i would do. Damn this hi fi thing your never satisfied. Going to start with making my own power leads first and go from there. Jim.