been to a funeral

Sorry about your dad dom, cancer is evil, Ive seen far too many die with it, I bet he's been through all that radiation crap too.

Im afraid its illegal to sell your body parts in this country, your allowed expenses so I suppose you could let people do hideous tests on you and claim a traveling allowance. Im sure in much less regulated countries you could get a few quid for your body, but you might have an 'accident' soon after.
 
We do get recycled thats what life is. We die because one or more parts of the equation is taken away ie oxygen, but theres plenty left, you might go on to used by a family of worms or a tree or a cake or a bike or your great grandchildren. If you think about it, buddha was years ahead of any scientist when it came to all this.
 
What I mean is you can advance-sell, so when you're dead, they get the cadavar. Money for nothing :)

Thanks re dad - it's incurable by radiotherapy/chemotherapy, but he DOES have implants (oestrogen IIRC!) which have been working - this is the lifespan thing though - once his cancer count goes above 5, he's doomed. It's been as low as 1.8, but was 2 on the last test (and has been 2 before it went down to 1.8). As soon as it goes above 5, it races away and that's that.

The good news is the drugs work - before he had the first implant the rating was 185!!!! The poor guy's got BAD water retention though - his feet look like giant balloons :(
 
Still not allowed to sell Im afraid, bodies are a no no, even donation can be very complicated.

To be honest I think your dad is probably in better shape by not having radiotherapy, Ive known a few go through it and go through hell and come out none the better. Like Ive said Ive seen too many.
 
Isaac Sibson said:
The problem with the pitch-black theory is that it's a scary one.
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Since you won't be able to perceive anything, there'll not even be any "pitch black", just oblivion. No memories, nothing.

Or alternatively, we may whizz about in another dimension or three, having a great time.
 
The Devil said:
Or alternatively, we may whizz about in another dimension or three, having a great time.
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Where every spot is a sweet spot, no matter where you are, and every sound a naimless wonder.
 
My grandads still got secondary cancer, his first operation was a sucuess (I assume) but he still has a bit of cancer left on his liver (the bowels where the original source) . The doctors don't know how bad it is. They are hoping drugs will cure it, if not he will need an other operation.

They said they can do radio theropy which will cure it but said thats a last resort because of the side effects and the process is slow. My grandad is 79 now.

I guess death is like having an anaspetic(sp) at the hospital. You are put to sleep then a second later you have woken up. There is no concept of time. When I woke up from my operation last year I was very confused.

I guess is death is just nothingness. In some ways it might be better than being alive, you will have no hassles, nobody to nag you and nothing to worry about. You will simply be a void.

I like to control things though and the biggest fear I have of death is not being able to control what happens when I die.
 
penance said:
If only :(
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That was badly worded, I meant you wake up straight away because you were a void while you were alseep you have no conciense(sp). I think being dead is probably the same as being unconcious.

If an operation went badly wrong and you don't wake up you will never know about it, being dead is the same, unless there is an after life.

Many of us won't know that we are dead - now that is a scary thought.
 
T-bone Sanchez said:
Still not allowed to sell Im afraid, bodies are a no no, even donation can be very complicated.

To be honest I think your dad is probably in better shape by not having radiotherapy, Ive known a few go through it and go through hell and come out none the better. Like Ive said Ive seen too many.
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Dang! (re the body selling!)

Yeah, you're right - mum DID come through the other end after radio and is just as strong as ever (she had breast cancer in 1993, followed by a collapsed lung and pnuemonia due to the radio - ouch!). And you're DEFINITELY right re my dad; one of my longest-known mates from school's dad's been through a full course of chemo and he's still terminal - no cure. His is FAR worse than my dad's too - he's got some kind of nasty stomach cancer, so his guts balloon due to water retention, and he's in a LOT of pain - far more than my dad. Life doesn't half know how to break it off and stick it in hey?
 
Markus Sauer said:
Got a source? I never heard that.
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I first heard it on a science thing on BBC Radio 4, and subsequently read the same thing in Bill Bryson's "A short history of nearly everything".

Obviously it's impossible to comprehend.
 
The Devil said:
I first heard it on a science thing on BBC Radio 4, and subsequently read the same thing in Bill Bryson's "A short history of nearly everything".

Obviously it's impossible to comprehend.
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In other words, it's simply speculation.
 
Joe said:
In other words, it's simply speculation.
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I suppose you can view any scientific theory as "speculation", but it would perhaps be better described as informed speculation, based on what they (the physicists) know about the Universe.
 
Joe said:
In other words, it's simply speculation.
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Yes, but well-informed and scientifically-based speculation. Ever since Einstein's two theories of Relativity, it has become more and more evident that Things Are Not As They Seem. As J.B.S. Haldane put it, they are not only queerer than you imagine, but queerer than you can imagine. String theory and all the dimensions are largely mathematical constructs, put forward to explain particular observations.

But then, this is how science proceeds - it observes phenomena, devises a theory to account for them, and then uses the theory to predict something. If the prediction fails, the theory is modified or dumped.

P.S. James, you're a mind-reader too?
 

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