Big brain and not paid enough?

You could if you wish couple the IQ test with others tests such as EQ and SQ to gather a fuller picture of someone but would this new information allow you to better know if they are underpaid for what they do?

What kind of brain do you have? There really are big differences between the male and female brain, says Simon Baron-Cohen. And they could help explain conditions such as autism
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Do you have a male or female brain? Take the test
 
greg said:
My "problem" is little brain paid too much.
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That's a problem? :D Never found that to be a problem myself when I use to work in IT up in London. :)

Test confirms that I'm underpaid for my IQ too, but then I'm in the south west (of England), so no surprises there. ;) Was glad to take a pay cut in exchange for a better quality of life though when I made the move a few years back.

Strange that the tests only focused on numerical and spatial reasoning and missed out on verbal reasoning as IQ tests usually do.
 
Of a certain very limited type of problem solving or intellectual ability - heavily biased by education and away from verbal reasoning, which is why chinese americans score about 15 points higher on average than black african americans even though they are actually no smarter. So basically there is a strong element of socital position which can give rise to spurious correlation of IQ and salary, as in the previous example. Correlation does not imply cause and effect.

There is a very loose correlation within very general bounds but outside of that it wil be much weaker, i.e. 120 iq earns more than 100 iq but 160 iq might not earn any more than 140 and in fact might earn less if they end up in research.

How much vested interest does the Guardian have in cherry picking certain studies as well ;).
 
Coefficient of 16 (21 out of 25) but then I already know that I can earn more stacking shelves at tesco on the nightshift than I can doing my so called "brain" job.

Life sucks eh
 
Test is a load of bollocks - even to get an IQ estimate with all the usual limitations and reservations takes a test that's a lot longer and more detailed than that sorry mess!

And the supposed "correlation" between results and earnings is even greater pants!

What I wanted to know when I finished it was where I went wrong...and they can't even be arsed to provide the answers! So much for the inquiring mind!

Pshaw!!!!!!! To say nothing of fie! tsk, tsk! or even paf! if you're feeling cosmopolitan!
 
Underpaid myself, but I also thought the test was flawed, it tested mathematical reasoning and visual pattern detection. There were no verbal or linguistic tests. I would wager it favours mathematicians.
 
lordsummit said:
Underpaid myself, but I also thought the test was flawed, it tested mathematical reasoning and visual pattern detection. There were no verbal or linguistic tests. I would wager it favours mathematicians.
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I was wondering why I did so badly in the tests, my maths is $h1t and so is my sight, I only managed to scarp 12 points, iq of 100-109, hum, oh well can't win them all, it says I'm paid the right amount and I agree actually, but for me I'd rather do something more intereting for less pay.
 
lordsummit said:
Underpaid myself, but I also thought the test was flawed, it tested mathematical reasoning and visual pattern detection. There were no verbal or linguistic tests. I would wager it favours mathematicians.
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Verbal and linguistic tests are very hard, if not impossible, to construct in a way that your education and social background doesn't influence the result, which is one of the main criticisms of IQ tests which generally do include such tests.

Again, it all comes down to how you define intelligence.

Michael.
 
So the whole lot is a waste of time other than indicating moron below average avergae bright very bright genius etc and you dont need an iq test for that!
 
HenryT said:
Strange that the tests only focused on numerical and spatial reasoning and missed out on verbal reasoning as IQ tests usually do.
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Damn right. I'm not good at maths, but got a few of those questions sussed. The spatial stuff wasn't too bad (thank GOD there's no colour in there). Verbal, I can walk :)
You got 16 questions right out of a possible 25. This gives you a cash/cleverness coefficient of...

5
It's official. Your IQ is significantly more powerful than the average for your salary bracket. Demand a pay rise while you still have your faculties.

I've had a constant headache for almost 6 weeks now (ever since giving blood) so that's my excuse. I've done IQ tests online before and the lowest score I got that time was the same as here - 119 - which was when I was blotto! On the ones with verbal reasoning on (pre headache and sober) I got between 145-155 so what gives?

On an aside - has anyone seen that spreadsheet that was going round with the 45 (IIRC) acronyms in? Apparently if you got 90% or more of them you were genius status :) Not sure how that follows though.

At least I'm still not into Forrest Gu-ump territory yet :)

BTW - IQ doesn't mean dick when you need common sense or need to know business practice :)
 
It's interesting that the Grauniad don't include much verbal reasoning in the test, I wonder why not? In a past life I interviewed many candidates for junior & middle management posts and we often used psychometric / IQ tests as part of the selection process (as well as presentations / 'how would you deal with this scenario' situations and even handwriting analysis). When tracking appointees progress the results of the IQ type tests were largely irrelevant, ability to adapt to situation / a sense of audience and the ability to deal in a positive way with the 'scenario' exercises was often the best indicator of a "good guy" to have working with you.
 
Neil said:
It's interesting that the Grauniad don't include much verbal reasoning in the test, I wonder why not?
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Probably how they ended up as the Graun
 
I agree with Neil. Long term studies of these type of selection straegies indicate almost no effectivness which is why they have been largely abandoned.
 
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Neil said:
we often used psychometric / IQ tests as part of the selection process...
...even handwriting analysis
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Did they use a crystal ball as well? Personally, I've always thought this psycho-babble testing was iffy in the extreme - psychometric tests are just nasty.

Mind you, the only times I've had to do psychometric tests was for jobs with management potential. I didn't get the job in any of the cases, and I was rather pleased in the long run. Management is one thing you won't catch ME doing in this life.

Mind you, I'm also the only person who's been turned down for MacDonalds AND Burger King. Something to do with trying to get a summer job when you're a raspberry. Tossers. Wish I'd kept those rejection letters though - they'd look ACE on my wall :)
 
I refuse to attend any interview involving iq or psychometric tests - it says something about the company involved if they rely on this quackery and cant figure out for themselves whether or not someone is right for the job. Given I have a phd in theoretical physics if they still think they have doubts about my iq then they can take a running jump ;)
 
Its not about testing your IQ, its about trying to gain extra information on what kind of person you are, and your suitability for the job in question. Our company uses Myers Briggs tests amongst others and they give remarkably accurate results.

Of course in BBV's case, one doesnt need to carry out complex and expensive psychometric testing to establish his (rather inadequate) personality, simply reading his forum posts gives the game away.
 
Thats only the psychometric aspect - which is no better than astrology or voodoo.

In that case your test would contradict my massive brain and salary! Point proved.
 

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