dull bass

greg said:
If we were making recommendations on subs around the typical Rel price mark I'd probably suggest looking at MJ Acoustics ref 1 (and ideally a pair if poss).
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Not meaning to take this thread off on a tangent but I highly disagree with your opinions of REL products. I used to have an MJ Ref 1 and subsequently found it (and all of the other MJ products) to have very poor quality crossovers which did not do their job properly. Having changed to the REL Stentor 3 I was amzed at the improvement in all aspects of the performance, it is fast, tight and goes ridiculously low. Try plugging in an MJ subwoofer without any main speakers attached, stick the crossover setting wherever you like, ideally as low as possible and listen to how much of the rest of the frequency range is still being reproduced by the sub when it shouldn't.
 
Monster..........................marketing hype gone mad and a motivated salesforce
 
Saab said:
Monster..........................marketing hype gone mad and a motivated salesforce
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I've been using Monster speaker cable for about 21 years now - I've compared with other types and have heard no appreciable difference in my system - so I don't think their marketing hype is worse than anyone else's!
Besides, I don't think they even advertise in the UK..
When I bought mine, back in 1983, it was about the best available, and highly recommended by my hifi guru (he had a Transcriptors Reference, Radford ST25 and Tannoy Yorkshire reds - I'd never heard anything like it!).

I'd say somewhere between the speakers and room nodes is the likely problem. Perhaps borrowing another pair of speakers to see how they work may be the best option..
 
Crustyloafer said:
I used to have an MJ Ref 1 and subsequently found it (and all of the other MJ products) to have very poor quality crossovers which did not do their job properly......Try plugging in an MJ subwoofer without any main speakers attached, stick the crossover setting wherever you like, ideally as low as possible and listen to how much of the rest of the frequency range is still being reproduced by the sub when it shouldn't.
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I agree and have had a similar experience. I now use my MJA Pro 50 just for the AV side of things where it does the job but even with the crossover set to 40Hz it was still reproducing sounds well above that (over 100Hz) which is a complete joke IMO.

I've been using Monster speaker cable for about 21 years now - I've compared with other types and have heard no appreciable difference in my system
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Another thumbs up for Monster cable. I use their basic cheap "S12" cable (similar to the old QED 79 strand) for my centre and surround speakers in my AV system and have no complaints at all. It's very cheap (I needed long lengths), easy to dress and works just as a well as any other speaker cable.

Michael.
 
I reccomend you post this thread in Pinkfishmedia.net they are in general far more informative than this forum.
 
Peter Scowcroft said:
I reccomend you post this thread in Pinkfishmedia.net they are in general far more informative than this forum.
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I think the posts here have been useful (if at times a little tangential), friendly and based on informed opinion.

When you say "far more informative" what do you actually mean?
 
Peter Scowcroft said:
I reccomend you post this thread in Pinkfishmedia.net they are in general far more informative than this forum.
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You'll certainly get plenty of suggestions, which will probably boil down to: (1) source first: buy a Naim CDS3; (2) sort out your mains, which will obviously require spending a lot of money; (3) Krell are rubbish, buy proper amplification, eg Naim 552 / 500; (4) Dynaudio are rubbish, buy Naim DBLs.
 
PeteH said:
You'll certainly get plenty of suggestions, which will probably boil down to: (1) source first: buy a Naim CDS3; (2) sort out your mains, which will obviously require spending a lot of money; (3) Krell are rubbish, buy proper amplification, eg Naim 552 / 500; (4) Dynaudio are rubbish, buy Naim DBLs.
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Nicely put bruv.
 
yogus said:
You have a width and length that are exact multiples of each other. This will result in a standing wave at around 40Hz and 80Hz. The 80Hz one is probably the nasty one, but the 40Hz one will give you the out of control sound or "one-note" bass.

Sounds like you're going to have to reposition your speakers or your seating position. Especially, don't sit right at the back of one of the walls as that's where one of the modes are going to be.
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Amir,

If yogus is right - and I suspect that he is - then you will get unusually large differences in bass response (peaks and troughs) as you move around the room (and this includes going from lying down to standing).

Try it. Not only is it free but it doesn't even involve moving equipment around.

If this is indeed where the main source of the problem is then speaker and listener positioning is where to start solving it, followed by bass room treatment and/or parametric equalization.

It's also worth examining the speaker/floor interface.
 
Leonard

you are kidding right? re Monsters marketing budget?! its the equivalent to the third world debt,

imo,the promote a normal product using a superb marketing strategy,in fact,I admire their business strategy,regardless of how good their product is
 

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