I hate scallies

Just been to a night club (5th ave) in Manchester and there was nearly a big fight. We told the bouncers and left. However this is the second time this has happened despite the club supposed to be a student inide club .They let scallies with GNVQ Foundation NUS cards who are dressed with rockports, shirt and a skinhead.

In future I am not goingto bother going into Manchester instead I am just going to the bars in my local area (chorlton) as there is never any hint of trouble.

It just seems a shame that a few scallies can ruine it, I should be in a night club dancing to love will tear us apart now.

 

What? Are you saying that the whole club was fighting Were you in the middle (or the cause ) or did you just happen to see a bit of trouble?

Dick'eads are a fairly common breed I'm afraid. The catalyst for their appearance is beer. Running off home isn't the answer, is it. Just keep out of the way and let the guys who get paid to be punched sort it out. Then you can move in on the scallies chicks

Regards

Hex

 

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was everybody kung fu fightin' ? were their kicks as fast as lightnin' ?

 

It just one a few drunks mouthing off but it really spoilt the night.

My mate got told to f*ck off just for saying excuse me. The clubs got too big now, it used to be a club for the music now its just a club to get drunk in.

I just really dispise the UK drunk culture. Don't get me wrong I like to have a few too many to drink when I go out, but I can handle it, I never start swearing or looking for trouble. I am still polite and friendly towards people etc.

I just don't know why drink makes some people violent.

 

Agree - there always seem to be idiots that decide to ruin an evening for everybody else. I can't understand the mentality of having to cause a fight after a few drinks either.

In fact, whilst out today, I overheard a conversation from two guys (obviously rather low in intelligence) and one of them said something along the lines of 'Well if I see a fight, even if it's nothing to do with me, I always want to join in'. Unbelievable - or maybe not, considering the mentality of some of the Portsmouth people!

A little off topic, but why do the women have to walk with a Tesco trolley back home with about two bags of shopping and then likely dump it just outside their home?

 

AT this ere club were exatly is it? seem to rember a good indie club down a bit from piccadilly towards the uni?
we used to frequent corbairs,rock city , the banshee and the ritz for evenings entertainment,but thats going back a few years i bet theve all closed now

 

The Ritz is still there but these days its just a scally place, its known localy as three generations, i.e doughter, mother and gradnmother are there.

The club is 5th Avenue on Princess Street, its round the back of the BBC, it used to apparantly be called Legends in the 1980's. Other good clubs I know the Brick House and 42nd Street, both specailise in Madchester music.

The problem with 5th Ave is the drinks are so cheap and scallies have found out about it. Its still good in week days though.

 

42nd street thats the one,seem to rember the bass bins are under the seats
ritz used to be ok,£1 to get in but youd get a voucher for a free bottle of pilse,and they always played 633 squadron at the end of the night

 

42nd Street is great but a lot of people don't like it because its always quiet. The music they play is supurb though. I admit I've never been to the Ritz but thats because everybody says how bad it is, its supposed to be good on Mondays student night but its heavy rock music then.

 

I agree with everyone else saying how there's always a minority who cause trouble indeed its very apparent on a night out in Wolverhampton...

New Years Eve there was a massive fight where I was that I managed to avoid, but only just...some moron barged into me, I turned round and looked at him and he started mouthing off, you know the sort 'come on then you wanna make something of it?', I mean really...if I barge into someone by accident I would apologise, not try and start a fight with someone, least of all someone I've never met.

I just walked away (I was leaving anyway), then watched this bloke punch someone whilst waiting for a friend of mine. Then about 5 of the doorstaff appeared, grabbed the bloke and dragged him out, giving him a bit of a kicking as he was trying to fight all 5 of them as well...rough justice?

The mentality of some people is just sick to me though, I can go out for a drink without getting totally blotto, and sure I've had one or two more than I should a few times in the past (but who hasn't?), but I never go out with the express intention of fighting or getting absolutely hammered on cheap drinks, so much so that I have to be carried out of a place at the end of a night or end up being sick all over the place.

 

He he - sounds like the sort of club my mate Ross'd like; between me and the rest of the internet (he he) he's done a few muntas in his time - including a 53 year old one night, and a 54 year old a few days later. He's 28...

Yeah - good ole "Townie" (see Townie encyclopedia (Chavscum) for info) mentality; my mate Rob had a blue shirt brigade (TM) member bump into him on the way out of Pavlov's Dog in Reading 2 weekends ago; the townie went off on one at Rob for no reason, and then threatened to break Rob's glasses. Well, just happens we were all talking to Mitch and Wallace (bouncer mates) and the townie picked the wrong guy; fool didn't know how close he was to Mitch breaking a CB radio over his melon skull!

Mitch got him barred from ALL the pubs in town that night, so that ruined any chance he had of causing more grief!

LOVE the avator by the way AT Cool!!!!

 

Chaps

I am familiar with several policeman who have to contend with drunkeness in clubs in swindon.

A mixture of booze, late nights and young people will inevetabley result in unrulely behaviour.

Possibly the answer is to ban the sale of alcohol and only permitt the sale of soft drinks.

Regards

Mick

 

Dom - Thanks it a sleeve picture nicked from Ebay, I just drew the grey bits in and photoshop and hey presto it yuo can tell its Blue Monday even in 50x50, its that size because other forums have size limits.

I bet your mate regretted it the next day!

Mick - The problem is alchohol does make the night better, without alchohol it would be hard to enjoy clubbing because too many little things would annoy you. The problem is I think clubs need to be stricter and through people out if they are signs of them getting rowdy.

5-6 pints ought to me enough for anybody. It won't get you drunk but you will be more than tipsy but still be under control (unless you're at work or behind the wheel of course ).

I've never understood the 18-30 'lets get plastered' mentality.

 

It's the lamo licensing laws that don't help; people binge drink over the last hour as they'll invariably've forgotten to stock up on beer for their fridge before going out, so the boozing stops when the club does...

My mate was the one being hassled - he was hanging back out of the fight; the other person was no friend anyone I'd know would know (I hope) - a tool of the highest order and one total lowlife loser.

Why the meathead thing happens, I dunno. It's usually attributed to people who drink Stella though - IME there's something in that lager that makes people aggressive BIGTIME - it certainly bypasses my decency chip when I have more than 3 or 4 pints of it, so I won't touch it now. Certainly, 12 pints of real ale is far less dangerous to my personality than 3 or 4 of Stella (Wife Beater)...

 

Stella that's loonie juice that is. Give me 7 or 8 pints of that and I'll have you all:moony:

I saw the Inspirals, the fall and quite a few other bands at the Ritz. Indie bands that have fallen by the wayside and whose names I can't recall. Great bouncey floor though.

42nd Street was always a tarts joint, always has been full of beer boys. We used to go to Revolution or Flea and Firkin (It's changed it's name now) or the Queen of Hearts and then move on to the Lovedup, Paradise or the Hacienda if we were feeling flush. Sankeys Soap was a favourite as we got a bit older. Then we all got partners some of us got married, and I've not been in a club for years.

It's as someone said the archaic licensing laws of this land mean that people try and chuck as much down their necks whilst they still can. You always get the odd dickhead, but there's no point in letting them ruin your life. AT there's more to Manchester than Chorlton, chances are you won't have a problem again. Try some of the other indie nights. Can you get into the MMU (showing my age I nearly called it the Poly:shame: ) They used to do a great night called the stomp.

What about Saturdays at South, Clint Boon is DJ'ing. A slightly more upmarket venue might keep you out of trouble

 

The problem is we are all cheap students and don't want to dress up the classier bars you tend to have to dress up to be able to get in. I think that Stomp thing at the MMU dosn't exist anymore. Sankey's Soap is a bit too expensive and people say its full of scallies these days but I am not sure if its true.

I am going to a university do on Thursday at 5th Ave, it should be good as they should play proper indie and keep the scallies out. When I went last saturday it was more American rock than indie.

Deansgate locks is nice but again too expensive/too hard to get in.

The Ritz is apparantly good on Mondays but its not my kind of music.

As for not going into a club for years I guess its better being happy married and settled rather than going out clubbing wasting money on booze. I reckon it must be 25 years since my parents last went to a club.

I know people at uni who seem to be in night clubs nearly every other night, they will end up getting a 3rd of fail because they drink too much. I only really like clubbing if I do it about twice a momth, any more than this and the novelty wears off.

 

Hi,

One of the big problems of any night life is the effect of alcohol on people. As a DJ, I see the effects every week. Some sights are very funny, some are very sad.

It's not surprising that you get these problems. Alcohol is a drug that depresses the nerves. The odd drink can make you relaxed. But after that the problems start. People then get mild euphoria and loss of inhibition as the booze kicks in. This leads to impaired judgement, memory loss, lack of concentration & coordination. Booze can kick in mood swings & emotional outbursts. Way too much can also induce sleep, coma & sickness.

The downside of all this is that different amounts effect different people. Another factor is the rise of strong booze in bars, pubs, clubs & shops. Add to this, the fact that some booze taste like pop but is strong in content.

The problem is not just with 'Scallies', townies or whatever they are called round your way. One of the biggest area of concern are students.

I had one drunken student, kick my wing mirror on my car. He paid for it as he was caught on camera doing it. I caught another kicking the a window panel of a door in. After I used 'resonable force' to stop him running away, he was arrested & charged.

You will get trouble every where you go. As to how much trouble you get depends on where you are. Manchester has a high crime rate, where Sheffield has a low one.

I don't know what the full solution is but I do think relaxing of the drinking laws should help. Also very cheap drink offers should be looked at. One of the clubs I work at does drinks at 60p. This is a nightmare at the start of term when fresh faced students hit town. There are pubs & bars which have happy hours that last all night. Hopefully this will cut down on 'binge drinking' which is a problem.

I think people should 'know their limit' when out drinking. I also think stiff punisment for drinking & anti social offences. How about making offenders clear up the streets & repairing the damage they have caused for starters.

All said & done try not to let it put you off.

SCIDB

 

Who said anything about not pissing my paycheque up a wall

I love the Deansgate locks, and some of the bars in The Printworks. But I quite see your point about being a student. I've been there, done that and paid the loan back....
On the other hand we went out and had fantastic nights out, but alcohol wasn't really the whole point. A few drinks in Manto's, Velvet or Prague 5 and then off to one of the trendy clubs where stimulants were equally consumed.
Mind you I wouldn't bother now, but I'm glad I did

 

I got back into Newport from Paddington just after 12.30 last night.

I walked through the center to see if my brother was still i work. I was in the center for about 5 min's tops. I seen several fights. Countless broken bottles, vomit, a couple of arrests, passed out "thugs and sluts" and while I was in a phone box I could hear shouts of "one at a time! I'll take ya all on" etc... Then some lad probably only just 18 walked past the phonebox with blood pouring from his face! Looked like something from a zombie MOvie!

There's also the litter, half chewed kebabs, and puddles of piss, it's a dirty stinking place!