garyi said:
Paul. When you are backed into a corner the only argument you have is that we are snobs?
Give us a break.
Its me who needs a break on this forum, nobody else. I am hardly backed into a corner either, in fact nobody still has come up with a good argument yet - either in this thread, or in the last several years for that matter. You lot are so entrenched in your views, that any view to the contrary is ridiculed straight away, because its the in thing on a hifi forum.
Clearly though you are using pretty basic hifi, sorry I have no idea what you own, but you are saying that basically the bass is the same, and basically MP3s are as good as the original. That is what You are saying.
Equally all us snobs are deluded, because you cannot hear a significant difference. I can only assume therefore its down to the equipment you are using.
I contend, ney insist that MP3 sounds farking awful as a quality music replay medium. That does not make me a snob.[/quote]
It doesnt make you a snob for sure. It does make you perhaps blissfully ignorant, or that the difference is exagerrated completely by you. This is a FACT, not an opinion. People (including audiophiles) have done many tests on many forae, and nobody denies there is a difference, but at some bitrates and music, the difference is inaudible. Yet you seem to think they are all sound absolutely awful when others (including audiophiles using expensive equipment) find them at times, all but indistinguishable.
Your views will never change, even though they are not true, so I'm done arguing with you about it.
You lot keep slagging my equipment because it does not cost £10000000000000. I guess that makes you feel good does it?
My main listening is done with an ANT Amber headphone amp and Beyer DT531 headphones, not the best on the market, but a LOT better than some of you clearly seem to think. But it doesnt cost thousands of pounds, so it must be crap
But FWIW, I have even conducted my own tests on equipment costing far more than mine, and if those people were honest, there wasn't this night and day difference you speak of. None of them got it 100% right in fact, but like you their opinion changed on the forums - I wonder why...
To be honest, I'm done with this forum. You can only have one opinion, and if it doesnt fit in with the clique, then you just get slagged off. I'm really getting bored with having the same pointless arguments with the same pointless people who never change their view, and are all holier than thou with it.
I can easily see why more people dont get into hifi, it will always be an anorak's hobby because it is full of arrogant anoraks now, who will just slag something off unless it costs at least 4 figures, and call people deaf because they dont subscribe to the same old horse **** that always gets spouted on here. I bet your one of those people who hears massive differences in racks, cables and all of that too... Well I've got news for you, I am interested in hifi regardless of what you think, which is why I have stuck around so long despite the abuse I get for my opinions on here, its just that not everyone is rich like you. I've also got some more news for you. Despite what you think, I've heard some very good hifi equipment, and for me, its not worth the extra and I suspect most people with any sense would probably agree - hence why this is a very niche market these days.
I often see threads in here whinging about why more people dont get into hifi or that its a dying hobby. Well, people like you are to blame, you scare people off with your "you've got to believe in this and buy that to be in my gang" kind of attitude.
Well bollocks to it. I've argued about it the last time on this forum. I've got better things to do than waste my time arguing with people who claim to hear things nobody else does. I suggest you get a life outside of hifi, because frankly, you just cant see the wood for the trees.
And just so you know, this isnt the usual "i'm leaving, please convince me to stay thread". I really am completely sick of the absolute ****e talked on these forums.
Have a good life.
