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Its just typical of modern day Britain (and no doubt plenty of others). Selling tickets of ebay is pretty low but all this text scamming is pretty much the bottom. Its pathetic that a the organisers of the event are spending more and more of their time, plus expense trying to stop the scammers etc.

Its just another example of innocence lost. Will they do another show like this again? I doubt it.

 

yeah, people actually make a living from selling tickets etc this way....

 

but what is there to deter them? scammers seem to be imune to the law not that anyone is ever caught or brought to justice.
There was someone at work trying to seel L8 tickets, geez, like they paid for them, what was it £1.50 per text, yep just typical of capitalist modern world.

 

Never buy tickets of touts ever, they are basicaly crinimals who use the money to fund drugs and other serious crimes.

I think ebay should ban all ticket sales not just charity ones.

 

hmmm,
not sure about this - the L8 thing is a special case and profiteering from it is just taking the piss.
however if you've shelled out for tickets and then find that you cannot attend the event, selling them via e-bay should be allowed.
the thing that get's my goat is the record co's using the L8 episode to stick the boot in on general ticket selling with all their waffle about 'black marketeering' - if that's not trying to boost THEIR profits off the back of L8 then i don;t know what is - and i find it as objectionable as those selling their tickets for profit.

 

agreed. there are lots of worms crawl out of the woodwork, record companies are some of them seedy dirty people monkies

I don't mind giving money, but I do object to mega millionaires who goto to pacific islands and have houses in the caribbean telling me to give what little I have.

talking of this, I have just sourced some diazepam off the web.

some of the prices charged are exorbitant, imo some of these online pharmacies are no better than drug dealers who get people hooked and charge them a fortune. hypocrites everywhere

 

Well you had to have access to a mobile phone to get tickets, so that was discrimination. Supposed you had internet access and no mobile phone [like me] and you were sad enough to want to go [unlike me].

 

Yep of course you should be allowed to sell tickets if you change your mind, put maybe this should be done via the tickets office. The problem is people buying tickets to sell is it stops other people from getting them.

 

I know its going to be difficult to organise such an event at short notice but Im sure they didnt expect this kind of exploitation. I can sort of agree with ltd's views of the artists and record companies. I know they are performing for free but it'll do their careers no harm at all and the ego trip must be huge but I think thats a fair trade for the publicity. The record companies are a different story, remember how long its taken them to agree on releasing the live aid dvd!

Personally, I think Sir Bob could have learnt from the Nelson Mandela concerts (46669 or similar). Basically this is a tour taking in alot of countries including African nations and is in aid of his trust. The main artists behind this are Brian May and Peter Gabriel but most major artists have appeared at some time or another. They're well worth watching.

 

Hi,

Interesting.

Not a new way doing things. People will do it if there is money to be made.

At the end of the day, it's his or hers ticket. The price of the ticket was £1.50. If people want to pay more for the ticket, when they sell it, that's their business.

All of them? Are you sure all touts are druggies or crimimals? No they are not. People sell tickets for many reasons. One of the main reasons are to make money.

Also touts can lose money. If the artist or show doesn't sell out, you can see the touts selling tickets for less than ticket price.

One downside with buying off a tout is the possiblity of false or forged tickets.

touts make money because people are more than prepared to buy their tickets. Venues and promotors can do a lot more to stop it but they don't as a rule.

Why? Ebay is a selling venue. Tickets have always been sold on ebay. If people want them, they will pay for them. If the tickets are the property of the seller, I can't see the problem.

I'm not sure that it is taking the piss. If the people running L8 didn't see this coming then it shows great naivety on their part. If you put on an event with bands that people want to see and have limited numbers tickets, then there is going to be a big demand.

You will get people prepared to pay well over the odds for a ticket. Charity or no charity. There was a bloke who sold his ticket on ebay with a £1200 buy it now. It sold within 10 minutes.

True, you will have people who can't go and want to sell their ticket. But it would be hard to turn down big money if many people are offing it. It down to supply and demand. Also if the seller wants to sell it at £1.50, they can.

At the end of the day, a big world event. Any artist that appears is going to benefit. It is excellent promotion for them. The main benefit is going to incresed sales. This will mean record companies will make more money. Making money is and has always been a big part of the music business. L8 will boost that amount of money.

Artists will be giving their time for free but the other side of the coin will be money made from increased sales. An arguement is that a cut of the money from the sales could go to the charity. Sales from the following week or month would do.

At Liveaid, 20 years ago, every artists that appeared on the bill have increased record sales. In some case it was many hundred fold. artists were finding old material jumping into the charts due a big sales boost.

Why? You need people in the public eye to promote these events. The pop stars will have more weight than you or I. A lot of Pop stars and actors give to various charities. Both with time and money. A lot you don't hear about.

Pop stars can earn big money. For example, Elton John has had a very good career. He has been playing in the music world since the 60s and sold millions of records. He has played and sold out concert halls and stadiums around the world. His music has given pleasure to millions. He is in an industry that can allow you to make big money. What he does with his earning is his business.

Elton John does a lot of work as patron or director of many charities. He even set up his charitiable trusts. He has donated his single sales to charity. I remeber he even sold his record collection for a large amount of money and this went to charity.

I have chosen Elton John not because I'm a big fan but because he is a good example of a big earner, big spender who gives and does charity work. Because he is in the media, he can help to push change.

At the end of the day, it is up to the individual to decide if they want to give money.

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The touts I have seen have all been dodgy types, I doubt they are declaring their income to Inland Revenue, also a tout asked me if I had tickets I said yes, they than asked if I was sorted for weed.

As for stopping it I believe they are planning on introducing measures to stop it.

 

Ticket touting is actually illegal, as of a few years ago, juts not enforced. I am surprised e-bay allow it due to its ellegality.

I bought tickets to see Tori and Tom mcRae as I missed the ticket sale, the guy I bought them off was a fan who couldn't make it and was gutted. I paid under ticket price too.

L8 making tickets a raffle is a joke IMO its the real music fans that lost out there. I would have loved to have seen floyde lets hope they do a few gigs of their own.

 

Hi Rob,

You are wrong on that one. You will find that ticket touting is not illegal in England. There is very little to stop anyone buying a ticket and reselling. The only place where it is usually illegal is for football tickets. But this is to stop football holiganism. Ebay had done nothing illegal.

But does that discribe all touts? No. touts come in many shapes, sizes and forms. A number are very ilegitimate businesses. Why? Because it is not illegal and you can make money from it. In recent times, there has been a big rise in the 'e tout'. People have tried it and made and lose money. Alot of touts are everyday people.

True there is and has been fake tickets but not in a lot of cases.

In a lot of cases the tickets have been picked up legally so the artists don't lose out. The sellers make the extra profit.

Some tickets come through corporate channels so you can look at how these operate. Does there need to be so much corporate dealing.

Touts survive because there is a demand. People want to go to events and are prepared to speed over the odds and not miss out.

There are plans to try and stop it. But these haven't got off the ground. Until then it is perfectly legal to do it.

Here are some sites with info and opinions on ticket touts.

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/money/guar...lastonburyfightspyramidsellingasfestival.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4614545.stm

http://www.thorntons-law.co.uk/Web/Site/News/News_Articles/T_in_the_Park_Ticket_Touts.asp

http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/articles/3868.html

http://content.cricinfo.com/england/content/story/209818.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...tix22.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/05/22/ixhome.html

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