I believe it is time to mention something that concerns me. I wish no ill intent to any one as I believe we all have a right to be here. But self promotion for commercial products seems to be creeping about the place. I am a synic at heart and am angered when stuff is sold in the way that it is. I notice that most people who have a commercial interest here are 'out' and try carefully to remain aloof. However I don't think its working. where people aren't selling there own stuff they are actively promoting other peoples. where they aren't selling there own stuff, bearly concealed attempts at non promotion are promotion in themselves. Question is what to do about it. I like the postings of everyone on this forum but I think the self congratulatory or false attempts at flattering others in return for flaterence is becoming a little obvious. Lets cut to the chase, make your intentions clear, or steer clear. I know I will be deeply unpopular for this.