......75 deg F in the shade half way through April????
Can't be right surely?
D.
Can't be right surely?
D.
nice to have some decent weather but...
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2003 had two weeks like this in April. Then we had those three weeks in july/aug where it was 30+.
That was awesome.
That was awesome.
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...if you like the heat...
I have (vivid) memories of cutting someones hedge with my shirt soaking wet fighting a loosing battle to keep the sweat out my eyes (wearing eye goggles).
The heats no good to me.
amazingtrade
Mad Madchestoh fan
They are planting palm trees in the centre of Manchester now as the council think they are mroe suitable for the climate than oak trees these days.
The met office have said though its above average the temperates have not been that abnormal for april.
The met office have said though its above average the temperates have not been that abnormal for april.
Bob McC
living the life of Riley
When I were nobbut a kid the only tree that would grow in the environs of Manchester City centre was the Manchester poplar. Hence its name. Ugly bugger it were.
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Sorry to disagree AT but the 24 C recorded on Saturday in Sussex was a record high for April 14th.
Here's wonky screen shot from mid July 2006,it was sooo hot I must have had a few drinks
Rodrigo de Sá
This club's crushing bore
I can no longer make out the weather. This winter we had snow around Lisbon; last year I saw snow from my window in February; then in August I had to retreat to a beach house (nice and cool) because of unbelievably hot spells. Popplars, usually in full leaf by now, are still in bud because February, Marc and April were coldish.
The normal statistics of weather no longer apply here in Iberia: it is almost always too cold or too hot for the season. What is more, we had a 'summer' weekend about a month ago, followed by typical winter weather for about a month. Yesterday we had 26 Centigrades... Today 27º-14º are predicted... -
One can say what one wants about 'normal' variation: I will submit that if we make a statistical analysis of deviation towards the mean (independently of this deviation being high or low) we will get a statistic significance.
Lisbon - well, the Lisbon region, he city is hotter because of the 'concrete effect' - is rightly famed for its mild weather: winter minima are usually mild (about 2-5) and summer months (August being the hotter month) are usually hot but not unbearably so.
Last year we had at least five heatwaves in August and two or three coldwaves in winter. This is statistically significant: a heat wave was an unusual penomenon, happening about once in 5 or 10 years and the previous really cold wave happened in 1985.
I have no doubt whatsoever that weather is not wat it was: I used to keep records, and everything seems different now.
Predictions are alarmist but I think, foremost, they are inaccurate: there are so many parameter changes going on that I think any unforeseen 'trigger' may be unleashed.
For instance I don't believe the Gulf Stream shutdown theory because the disruption of the thermohalyne (spell) circulation would convey larger amounts of heat into the Northern Atlantic and would, therefore, cause massive heating in the first place. This is because the Gulf Stream is wind conveyed, and the lack of sinking 'pumps' would just create large areas of hot water, with ensuing rain and defrosting.
I am really worried about the irresponsible way polititians and the media are behaving concerning weather change.
P.S.: Palm trees will NOT grow better than oaks. Oaks are slow trees, but they withstand cold; palms will always look half burned if temerature does not stay above 15º or so. I lived in Madeira, in Brasil, in France, in Belgium and in Portugal. I have watched the pathetic strivings of growing palm trees where winters are cold: they are always uggly, whereas in subtropical climates (let alone the tropics) they are really green and lush.
If Manchester wants to grow something for warmer weather, do it with chestnuts, plane trees, asch and maple species. Palms indeed!!
The normal statistics of weather no longer apply here in Iberia: it is almost always too cold or too hot for the season. What is more, we had a 'summer' weekend about a month ago, followed by typical winter weather for about a month. Yesterday we had 26 Centigrades... Today 27º-14º are predicted... -
One can say what one wants about 'normal' variation: I will submit that if we make a statistical analysis of deviation towards the mean (independently of this deviation being high or low) we will get a statistic significance.
Lisbon - well, the Lisbon region, he city is hotter because of the 'concrete effect' - is rightly famed for its mild weather: winter minima are usually mild (about 2-5) and summer months (August being the hotter month) are usually hot but not unbearably so.
Last year we had at least five heatwaves in August and two or three coldwaves in winter. This is statistically significant: a heat wave was an unusual penomenon, happening about once in 5 or 10 years and the previous really cold wave happened in 1985.
I have no doubt whatsoever that weather is not wat it was: I used to keep records, and everything seems different now.
Predictions are alarmist but I think, foremost, they are inaccurate: there are so many parameter changes going on that I think any unforeseen 'trigger' may be unleashed.
For instance I don't believe the Gulf Stream shutdown theory because the disruption of the thermohalyne (spell) circulation would convey larger amounts of heat into the Northern Atlantic and would, therefore, cause massive heating in the first place. This is because the Gulf Stream is wind conveyed, and the lack of sinking 'pumps' would just create large areas of hot water, with ensuing rain and defrosting.
I am really worried about the irresponsible way polititians and the media are behaving concerning weather change.
P.S.: Palm trees will NOT grow better than oaks. Oaks are slow trees, but they withstand cold; palms will always look half burned if temerature does not stay above 15º or so. I lived in Madeira, in Brasil, in France, in Belgium and in Portugal. I have watched the pathetic strivings of growing palm trees where winters are cold: they are always uggly, whereas in subtropical climates (let alone the tropics) they are really green and lush.
If Manchester wants to grow something for warmer weather, do it with chestnuts, plane trees, asch and maple species. Palms indeed!!
