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    guys has anyone ever used no ip.com?

    i need to change my radio addy

    http://80.46.143.206:8000/listen.pls

    its got an ip in there but the ip's not static so the addy changes every time i log on to the net.which is a bit usless when i advertise my station.

    any ideas around this?


    cheers,

    Rob.
     
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    Erm most broadband accounts give you a static IP address. You could also try using a router if you're on broadband so you don't need to connect/disconnect. This would give you a static IP until you disconnet by accident or the connection goes off for some other reason.

    I think the only real way round it though is to get broadband and change ISP.
     
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    Hi AT,

    Even with "normal" broadband there is no guarantee that the IP address will not change. However, it is possible to buy broadband with a dedicated IP address which doesn't change until your contract expires. I found this out the hard way, we have VPN tunnels to various 3rd parties we deal with, which obviously stopped working after the IP address changed.
     
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    Yeah I meant to say that. My IPs not changed for at least 6 months now but there is nothing to stop BT from changing it. It actually says on paper too the address is dynamic. I guess this is just to cover themselves in case they change it.
     
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    its proving to be a right pain in the arse.
    the thing is although im usually on line 24/7 there is the odd occasion,such as having to reboot that i have to dissconnect.
    im with tiscaly (i think thats how you spell it) so il give them a ring and find out about static ip's.

    cheers guys,

    Rob..
     
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    A router will solve the reboot problem. Since I bought my router it has been great. Also if you configure it correctly it is much more secure than using a modem.
     
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    what exactly is a router and where do i get one from m8y?

    im totally new to all this puter stuff.
     
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    A router is what makes the internet work. It is a box that routes traffic to the currect PC. A router basicaly sends data in the right direction. For example you have that IP address there. How does my computer know where it is? Well if I wanted to send you a message (netsend) the data would leave my PC and then go to a router. It is very complicated explain exactly how they work but an easy explantion is that they route traffic. A router is this sence is also a gateway to the internet. On a large network it is the device that allows the internal network to connect to the outside world.

    A router is also used as in networks as a hub. It also routes internal traffic as well as internet traffic. A hub is not intellegent to just sends the data to PCs regardless if other traffic is traveling down its network cable hence causing collisions and backoff. It then tries again slowing down the internet connection. A router has its own microprocessor and is able to send traffic to more than one PC at a time.


    If you have not done any networking before then buying a router may not be such a good idea unless you know a local computer shop that will be willing to explain how you set it up.

    You basicaly have to configure your networking settings on your PC to regonise your router or you could try setting it up for DHCP.

    You should be able to get one of ebay. Just type in Router and see what comes up. You can get single or multi port versions. The mulitport is what I have. It allows you to plug many PCs into the router so each PC has full internet access.

    Mine cost me £50 and is a 4 port router. Also your PC must have an eithernet network card.

    Personaly though if you are a complete novice it may be more hassle than it is worth. I had a bit of trouble getting mine to work at first and I have networking experience. I would say setting up a router is probably at an intermediate level.

    I hope this helps a bit.
     
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    a router is very easy to set up. i bought a linksys one and it was pretty much plug in and use. the instructions provided were brilliant and even a rem like AT could set it up. buy one as it will allow you multiple connections to the internet and is more secure.
     
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    Try setting up a class 3 Cicsco Router... The one I bought was a £40 cheapo with no instructions which was why it was hard to setup. Also are you using USB or ethernet Phill?

    Also why the pathetic school kid like insult? In what context was it required in this discussion about IP addresses and routers?
     
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    A router is more secure as it does port address translation, some people in error call it network address translation.

    PAT is one IP address to many ip addresses.

    NAT (port forwarding) is one IP address to one IP address.

    http://www.adslguide.org.uk/qanda.asp?faq=nat

    Dev, here's a link for you :D
     
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    That's wicked Andy.

    I was seriously going to ask you how you knew I was into Networking (Iwork with Ciscos all day) then I read the contents:D :D :D :D :D indeed:D

    That URL will do the rounds tomorrow:D
     
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    ADSLGUIDE is another one of my regular sites I visit. I am often seen in the chatroom moaning about crap.

    Its a great site. I can do all my networking revision while chatting to people:)
     
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    You too :eek:

    I did work for a large American company who did car radios many years ago, untill they outsourded their IT dept, I mostly do WAN & Some LAN Switching.

    You mentioned VPN tunnels, so I thought you might be a bit of a geek like myself :D
     
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