[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RdS [/i] [B]I'll be burnt for this - suggesting that one begins with Wagner, turns to his followers, and then back to him again; it does seem silly!. :) [/B][/QUOTE] Not at all - as I said that's exactly what I did. I probably first encountered the Dutchman and Tannhauser overtures, then the Funeral March and Prelude and Liebestod (without any warbling), then on to Strauss' tone poems, Bruckner 4+7 and Mahler 2+9, next to Strauss' 4 last songs, Salome and then Elektra - and only then was ready for the Ring and Tristan. Of course Wagner has a completely different sound colouration from Strauss - more dark and golden rather than the latter's bright and silvery, and Mahler is chamber music for 140+ instruments.