What a waste!!!

That's not understeer, it looks like he locked the front wheels while braking and went straight ahead into the concrete. No ABS on that car, it seems. Griffin should take some driving lessons.
 
understeer followed by.....


Markus Sauer said:
he locked the front wheels while braking and went straight ahead into the concrete. No ABS on that car, it seems. Griffin should take some driving lessons.
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......??


pity if it was rare.

(thats show bus........you've got to break something).
 
should have just turned left once it locked and stepped off.


but he's right, he can't drive.......
 
No. but Ferrari have won Le Mans more times than McLaren. As far as I recall McLaren have one it once in 1995 whereas Ferrari won it six years in a trot before they got bored with it:D. Hell, even Renault Alpine, Sauber and Mazda have won it once and Peugeot won it twice!:).
 
Dev said:
No. but Ferrari have won Le Mans more times than McLaren. As far as I recall McLaren have one it once in 1995 whereas Ferrari won it six years in a trot before they got bored with it:D. Hell, even Renault Alpine, Sauber and Mazda have won it once and Peugeot won it twice!:).
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With a road car chassis ?
 
As far as I know in the fifties and sixties when Ferrari did win Le Mans they had no separate race or road cars. The Le Mans cars were road legal.

Anyway, you seem to be taking this more seriously than I intended. You are obviously a McLaren fan and I like Ferrari (not a fan though, I just like certain type of cars) and we are not going to change each others opinion, so I'm going to bow out of this discussion.
 
I was just saying that when they won Le Mans in 95 they beat sports prototypes with a road car.

But hey no worries. I obviously love Ferrari road cars too. 246 Dino's and 360 CS are among my all-time favorites. However, Once or twice I have spent a while having a poke around a few F1's (mostly race cars that are being converted back to road cars) and I can honestly say that the engineering in the adjustable pedal assembly alone is more impressive than any other whole car that I've seen. No wonder they lost money on the project. Just as VW seem to be with the Veyron...
 
JCL said:
But hey no worries. I obviously love Ferrari road cars too. 246 Dino's and 360 CS are among my all-time favorites. However, Once or twice I have spent a while having a poke around a few F1's (mostly race cars that are being converted back to road cars) and I can honestly say that the engineering in the adjustable pedal assembly alone is more impressive than any other whole car that I've seen. No wonder they lost money on the project. Just as VW seem to be with the Veyron...
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Sorry, I was going to "bow out" because I just didn't want to enter into Ferrari v McLaren argument;), but I agree with the above. From engineering POV the F1 and particularly the Veyron are very interesting.

My favourite Ferraris are the 246 Dino (never sold as a Ferrari though as you probably know), the Daytona and the 250 GTO.
 

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