Which ISP ?

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    I've decided it's time I moved into the real world and got myself Broadband. After checking the BT website, I'm a long way from my local exchange so the max. speed I can get is 512Kpbs.

    As I live in a rented house (and move house fairly often), my requirements are :

    - No 12 month contract
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    - No 'Moving House' charges

    - preferably no/low setup costs (free modem isn't essential as I'll probably buy one anyway (I've heard the free ones are generally cr*p)
    - no faster than 512Kbps required
    - I'd prefer to pay no more than £20 per month, but would pay more if it was worth it

    Zen Internet has been recommeded to me, but I don't like their £60 setup costs.

    Also, am I likely to experience any serious issues using broadband with my Celeron 400(!) laptop (I'll be building a PC in the near future to solve this problem!)
     
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    themadhippy seen it done it smokin it

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    pipex,£23 a month for 1mb no setup fee ,no 12 month contract and no download limit.Been with them a couple of years and i aint had a problem yet
     
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    I've heard they are good, don't like the sound of the £60 'cancellation' fee though (if I was to cancel within first 12 months).
     
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    themadhippy seen it done it smokin it

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    Ah didnt see that sneaky "cancallation fee"
     
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    If you have a bit of free time then it may be a good idea to have a browse through the adslguide and pay attention to the ISP List and the ISP Comparator. I feel that it may take a bit of wading through but after yoiu have visited a goog few ISPs you should be able to get a feel for what is on offer but remember prices seem to change almost every week with each new special offer.
     
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    Reading these reviews has put me off Pipex even further.
     
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    I had some problems in the early days with BT because their supplied browser software is crap. Once I got them to admit that it was crap and that I could uninstall it and use Internet Explorer instead, the service has been good.

    It's expensive at £26 per month but there are a fair few extras on top of the basic service. Perhaps the most useful is the LaunchCast personal radio station and music video service. I'm getting a 2.2 Mbps service here. I used to think 'what would I need with all that speed'? Well it really makes video streaming and downloading a joy. And Windows updates take no time at all.

    Nothing wrong with the supplied Alcatel Speedtouch modem either.
     
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    auric FOSS

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    What a shame that is a selling point but then think of all the new Linux live CDs you can download, burn and try.
     
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    Can anyone list which ISPs just give you the info required [broadband or dialup] instead of buggering about with browsers [AOL etc]. I know claranet would just give you the dial-up details, but the price is high. I think the old 'freeserve'/'wannabollox' backdoor is still open for pay as you go [very useful for checking a dodgy dialup] but they disconnect the account quickly, then spam you with junk mail [why?? - tossers..!]

    Any other ISPs who treat you like a customer and not an idiot??
     
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    Virgin.net - 14.99 per month for 512 with no annual contract (month by month). no connection /set-up charge plus free modem (speedtouch) and 2 microfilters. Does me fine.

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    garyi Wish I had a Large Member

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    What you need to account for is a 60 quid set up fee, every ISP has to pay this to BT, even BT broadband is a different company to BT and have to pay them.

    So you have two choices pay the fee for a none fixed term contract such as Metronet, or get free set up and be tied in for a year.

    I use Metronet because they don't bug me when I use perlenty of bandwidth and the pricing is on a scale, I have a monthly data allowance of 43gigs for 20 quid, on a half meg connection its a lot cheaper. Another bonus is they answer emails and if I Have to phone them they speak English I can understand and they answer in under a week.

    All good stuff.

    Avoid Tiscali apparently the technicalities of connecting to the french network (they are selling french bandwidth) makes getting out very very difficult.
     
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    conversely, i've been with pipex for 3 (or is it 4) years. perfect service. £33.99 for 2mb line. (and i claim that back from work, but that's a special perk !)
     
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    Been there, done that, got the t-shirt! Decided to take the plunge and sign up to a 12 month contract with Demon (and I'll use their free modem until I get myself sorted with a decent PC). All non-contract ISPs seemed to have a hidden charge (to account for the amount each ISP has to pay to BT).

    The only ISP without a 12 month contract that I really wanted to sign up with was Zen (I haven't heard a bad word said about them), but I didn't want to pay the £50 setup fee (call me scrooge!). All other ISPs have good and bad reviews, but Demon features quite highly in the ispreview.co.uk Top 10 section so I'll give them a go. I'm hoping it will be fairly easy to transfer if I do move house within the next 12 months!

    I'm also hoping that I may be able to get faster than 512Kbps - my postcode says up to 1Meg (and it's only a small street!), but my phone no. says only 512Kbps. If the upgrade is available, Demon shouldn't charge to increase my connection speed :)
     
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    garyi Wish I had a Large Member

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    Usually batfink there is no hidden charge, the better ISPs are simply up front about it, all you have achieved is spreading a small cost over a year with a service you may land up un happy with.
    The up side is apparently demon I supposed to be good.
     
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    I checked the ADSLguide and decided to sign up with Pipex. Good stats on service and support. Went for the 2mb/unlimited @ £22.99 per month. I've also got 250mb webspace + a static IP address. Just waiting for the connection to complete.

    The 12 month/£60 cancellation doesn't bother me. I've has AOL dial-up for £15 per month so Pipex looks very good value.

    If you decide to go Pipex they have a Recommend a Friend scheme. It's worth 50p per month off your bill if the person signs up.
     
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    Well, Demon have cancelled my order due to my distance from the exchange (a total of 1.6km!!!! - I've heard Demon can be a pain in the a*se in this respect), so it looks like I'm back to square one.

    I'm still considering Pipex, but think I've now narrowed it down to the following :

    Zen (although £24.99 is a bit steep for 512Kbps these days)
    Metronet (still not completely sure how this works - need to read more);
    Freedom2surf
    Pipex.

    Of course I'm sure you'll be wanting to recommend a 'friend', won't you Hex Spurt, assuming I go for Pipex??!!!

    I still have a dial-up account with Onetel (not recommended - shocking connection quality) which costs me around £11 for free evening and weekend usage so broadband seems quite cheap these days in comparison!
     
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    garyi Wish I had a Large Member

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    Batfink metornet work thusly:

    You sign up to the 512k service. Each month you will pay a minimum of £11.75 a month. this allows you usage of up to 5 gigs of data. If you go over that you are charged per gig until you reach £22.75

    If you reach £22.75 then you will be charged no more but you still remain connected. Its intended for people who are not massive users who are looking to save a few bob but if needs dictate know that there is not going to be a stupid bill at the end.
     
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    Thanks, but I think that honour should go to themadhippy, he was first to recommend Pipex in this thread :)

    Of course...if he declines and assuming you decide to go Pipex... :D
     
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