[QUOTE=kennyk]by all means drink the coffee at the dealers' dem rooms and deliberate on a new purchase, but I think that a different approach is required for second hand hifi, especially as there's people about who will know[/QUOTE] Personally I see absolutely no difference with buying 2nd hand kit from an individual, and when I [i]sell[/i] kit 2nd hand and someone comes round for a demo I expect them to do just that. That is, listen to it and buy it if they like it. If a seller isn't happy to do this then fine, they can just say so. (note: I'm not commenting on the specifics of rockhopper's/mr cat's prospective sale, but rather responding to kennyk's comments)