[quote="felix, post: 721993"]PS on satnav - it seems to have the unique ability to turn thinking people into idiots. There's no reason to have it. </luddite>[/QUOTE] As predominantly sole driver I use mine a lot.......less now as I am just drivng less. Any thing that needs collecting /delivering to a unknown destiation it just makes life so much easier. Yes, you can do it with a map book but the sat nav is more convenient (IMO of course).