Chorley is dry

at the risk of sounding like I'm sticking up for my employer, they produce the most accurate data in the world for our line of work
Being the 'most accurate' doesn't imply 'accuracy' let alone adequacy. The weather forecast is almost always wrong. Just watch almost any 5 day from the Met Office over a week and see how it changes update by update.

Paul
 
I doubt it's impossible. After all the entire 'Climate Change' lobby is predicated on the basis of 100 year weather forecasts, you'd think a rough estimate for 5 days would be possible.

Paul
 
5 day forecasts of any real accuracy for regions with very unstable weather patterns (like the UK) are not possible with current technology.

Climate change models are entirely different. They are predicting things like average annual temperatures, not wether we'll have showers with sunny intervals in London on 14 Sept 2067.

Michael.
 
penance said:
Long lines at stations round here, 2 have run out of fuel already. Most of Bristol is the same.

Still got 3/4 of a tank which will last for a while. If it gets bad then I have two plans:

A. If they limit it to essential staff I send the wife out in my car to fill up. Will feel slightly guilty but it's a price worth paying.

B. Find a friendly farmer and fill up on the old red stuff! Can't imagine a tank or two would cause the engine too much grief.

Matt.
 
In the future, tradesmen will only work locally. In the early days they will be able to justify the cost of fuel. Eventually they will switch to horse drawn vehicles or carts.

This would be good, we'll actually be able to get hold of a tradesman for a change.

The car has a lot to answer for, its changed the way people shop, all the local shops and postoffices have closed, why, because the car ownsers are going to the out of town shops, sow where does that leave the no car drivers? Very rarely is there a bus to these places.

Its changed the community, no one lives and works in the same area these days, I live 4 miles away from my work place, I'm willing to hedge a bet that apart from Dom that's the closest here!
 
Matt F said:
Still got 3/4 of a tank which will last for a while. If it gets bad then I have two plans:

A. If they limit it to essential staff I send the wife out in my car to fill up. Will feel slightly guilty but it's a price worth paying.

B. Find a friendly farmer and fill up on the old red stuff! Can't imagine a tank or two would cause the engine too much grief.

Matt.
Your joking right? 1, so you expect your wife to blink her eye lids a couple of times to cut in the queue? 2, you'll distroy your cat, not to mention clogging up the injection system and blocking your injectors, (I'm assuming your talking about putting diesel in a petrol car), it would be cheaper to get a push bike! :)
 
leonard smalls said:
And as for ethanol being a "green" substitute - C2H5OH + 3O2 -> 2CO2 + 3 H2O
Not exactly reducing greenhouse gases!

Duh! :rolleyes:

You only put half the equation!

Seed + 2CO2 + 3 H2O + Sunshine = Ethanol + 3O2

It's a perpetual cycle with no net effect on the atmosphere.

Unlike oil. Unfortunately the cycle for putting that back in the ground lasts millions of years :(
 
lordsummit said:
Lee, Matt has a Diesel, I don't think any sane person would consider putting diesel in a petrol car!
oh phew, fair enough, oh I've seen it happen a lot of time, actually a mechanic at the garage I used to work did this, beleive me he never lived it down, wonderd why his car smoked, hum even I could tell what he had done! muppet. :)
 
5 day forecasts of any real accuracy for regions with very unstable weather patterns (like the UK) are not possible with current technology.
So why offer them?
Climate change models are entirely different.
Not really. The same underlying problems have to be solved. 'Climate change' models do however have the advantage of not being easily falsifiable...

Paul
 
technobear said:
Duh! :rolleyes:

You only put half the equation!

Seed + 2CO2 + 3 H2O + Sunshine = Ethanol + 3O2

It's a perpetual cycle with no net effect on the atmosphere.

Unlike oil. Unfortunately the cycle for putting that back in the ground lasts millions of years :(
Fair enough!
How am I supposed to know all that bio nonsense, when I was a chemist nothing existed outside the laboratory!
However, I think there are still better alternatives to be explored than the carbon neutral one.. Though when they'll work weel enough is anyone's guess.
Cold fusion, anyone?
MattF said:
B. Find a friendly farmer and fill up on the old red stuff! Can't imagine a tank or two would cause the engine too much grief.
Careful - "fuel crises" are just the sort of time when Police would dip a diesel looking for the red stuff!
I knew of someone, however, who attached their filler cap to a dummy tank containing about a pint of ordinary diesel, which was dipped by the Police. The main fuel tank was filled from a filler underneath the back seat, and that used agricultural red diesel, or central heating fuel!
 
lhatkins said:
Your joking right? 1, so you expect your wife to blink her eye lids a couple of times to cut in the queue? 2, you'll distroy your cat, not to mention clogging up the injection system and blocking your injectors, (I'm assuming your talking about putting diesel in a petrol car), it would be cheaper to get a push bike! :)

A - wife is a doctor so qualifies as essential staff (and may or may not have filled up my car for me the last time there was a fuel crisis).

B - I drive a diesel but I was half joking about the red option - not sure a newish BMW diesel engine would take kindly to that roughish agricultural derv - in fact knowing BMW the ECU would probably grass me up for using red diesel the next time the car is in for a service and the police would be immediately informed!

Matt.
 
leonard smalls said:
Careful - "fuel crises" are just the sort of time when Police would dip a diesel looking for the red stuff!
I knew of someone, however, who attached their filler cap to a dummy tank containing about a pint of ordinary diesel, which was dipped by the Police. The main fuel tank was filled from a filler underneath the back seat, and that used agricultural red diesel, or central heating fuel!

I think they still have to have a good reason to stop you. I've read a couple of reports of people being caught (and fined around £750 incidentally) but in each case their number plates were scanned and returned something else dodgy about the car e.g. no tax and so the police had every right to stop them.

Matt.
 
Paul Ranson said:
So why offer them?
No idea. However, if they're right more often than they're wrong it could be worth basing decisions on them in the long run.

Not really. The same underlying problems have to be solved.
Yes and no. The more "macro" a level you look at the earth's weather systems the more linear they get so the more easily predictable they become.

'Climate change' models do however have the advantage of not being easily falsifiable...
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that :confused:

Michael.
 
Matt F said:
A - wife is a doctor so qualifies as essential staff (and may or may not have filled up my car for me the last time there was a fuel crisis).
So abusing the system then.
Matt F said:
B - I drive a diesel but I was half joking about the red option - not sure a newish BMW diesel engine would take kindly to that roughish agricultural derv - in fact knowing BMW the ECU would probably grass me up for using red diesel the next time the car is in for a service and the police would be immediately informed!

Matt.
Arr right ya I woudln't risk it, I expect the ECU would phone the police direct, or just switch off, (joking) know how much technology they pack into these things these days.
 
Alternative to the car

This was posted on our works noticeboard, I'll risk it by posting it here as I think it qualifies as topical

Mobility Scooter. PRIDE LEGEND 3, 3 wheeler with luxury padded seat and movable arm rests, basket, variable speed and all lights and indicators. Excellent condition finished in green metallic paint with off white upholstery. £850. Buyer collects
Now right in thinking these things don't need a licence? No need to visit the petrol station with one of these, and if really cheeky plug it in while at work :p
 


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