CPU temperature question

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    Sir Galahad Harmonia Mundi

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    Hi All,

    My computer uses a ASUS motherboard with a small utility called PC Probe. It popped up today showing a CPU temperature of 52°C/125°F. MB temperature is steadily 38/100. I looked at the history which shows similar temperatures at certain times of day over the last few days.

    I have never monitored temperature before (PC Probe never popped up either) and it looks high to me (the Settings page of same utility has a set threshold of 72). Any idea if this is normal or not?

    Thanks in advance
     
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    What CPU is it? 52c is pretty good to be honest. Especially if it is an AMD?
     
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    amazingtrade Mad Madchestoh fan

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    AMDs run much cooler than Intels now, my Sempron never gets above 35c. Athlon XPs typical run at 50c but Pentium 4 HTs run very hot indeed. Its Intels biggest problem at the moment.
     
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    Sir Galahad Harmonia Mundi

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    It's a Pentium IV, 2.8
     
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    When i first put my current computer together ( MSI MoBo, AMD athlon 2.5 barton chip) It came with a bit of software that monitored the temperatures etc very closely, there was a readout in the system tray. After visiting one of the MSI forums i found that folk seemed to be very obsessive about temperatures and i also found myself getting sucked into this obsessiveness. I binned the software a long time ago and instead set my BIOS to give me an alarm anytime the CPU temp got up to about 60 deg. The only time its ever sounded was a few weeks ago. I found that my CPU heatsink was clogged up with dust. I removed the fan and gave it a hoover out and never heard the alarm since.

    One more thing, although i never bothered overclocking my computer i found that once the alarm had goe off and turned off the computer the BIOS reset itself to the very slowest speeds, probably as some kind of self preservation mode...

    Just had a look at mine and it's running at 42 deg C. Although things seem to hot up a lot if i'm recording video's onto HDD off my Sky + box.
     
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    Tenson Moderator

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    Really, thats what I am have. It is a very good overclocker. I have mine at 3.5GHz with no problems at all.

    52c does sound alright though. I think mine is at about 54c when maxed out and overclocked to 3.5GHz, but I have water-cooling.
    I thought the majority of people are still running Athlons AT? How hot do the new Athlons get? 64bit chips for example.
     
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    amazingtrade Mad Madchestoh fan

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    Not sure exactly but Athlon 64s run very cool, they have good dies, I think they should run less than 40c on a proper setup.
     
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    la toilette Downright stupid

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    My Athlon XP 3200+ (2.2Ghz) is currently at 42c, but I remember my old PC with Athlon 1400 used to be around 50-54c all the time.
     
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    nsherin In stereo nirvana...

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    Yep - my Athlon 64 runs at about 40 to 42C on an average load with a few web browser windows open and an e-mail client. The Althon 64 I have is a 3000 Socket 939 Venice core.
     
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    Sir Galahad Harmonia Mundi

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    Thanks to all for the input, looks like things are normal after all, I just did not realize these chips ran so hot.
     
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    amazingtrade Mad Madchestoh fan

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    Yep its a major problem for none mobile Intel laptops they overheat which fries the electronics around it.

    I think Intel will finally fix it by the end of the year though :). Its amazing how AMD have stolen their thunder so much. AMD's have always been cheaper and faster but they ran hotter, now they are cheaper, faster and run cooler.
     
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    I think faster is a bit debateable.
     
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    Snap (on the speed AND temp) - when my room's hot and I've been playing San Andreas for a while, the machine'll clock up to 45 degrees, but I have a Nexus Breeze silent case with a rather unique fan system so the chip heat doesn't actually vent out the side of the case, so I suspect the chip would run cooler if I had a different case.

    EDIT: my old HP Pavillion (Athlon 750) would hover around 60 degrees, I kid you not!

    BTW - is 60 degrees C for a 6800 Ultra graphics card too hot?
     
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    why amd's have a bad name in the overheating department?

    http://www.metacafe.com/item26293/GMAME

    for a bonus 10 points name the music playing.

    cheers


    julian

    p.s. it's a video so if you're on dial up, forget it.
     
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    I've got an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ and a motherboard that misreads the temperature - mine routinely reads over 80 celcius IDLE. However, I know it cant be that high in reality, as its been stressed quite a lot and it goes to over 90 to 100 celcius on the reading and yet its perfectly stable and has been for many years.
     
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    amazingtrade Mad Madchestoh fan

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    Not according to virtualy all the benchmark tests:) Plus the fact AMDs are quite some bit cheaper you can use the money to you save on a better video card etc:JOEL:

    The only people I know who buy Intel tend to drive Rover 45s.:D (sorry that was a tad cheeky).
     
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    Or for business use where reliability and quality are required over cheapness and benchmark scores :)

    Actually I think I have said this before, its not the CPUs I don't like so much its the motherboards. Intel make THE BEST mobo chipsets, for me I'm afraid anything else just won’t do. I have seen waaaaay to many problems come from non-Intel motherboard chipsets.
     
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    Hmmmm... my lower processor normally runs at around 50C in 'reduced' mode (i.e. it slows to 2.0GHz) and up to 65C in 'full speed' mode (i.e. 2,7GHz). The upper processor runs a little hotter due to the heat from the lower one rising I reckon - perhaps 53C/70C. Graphics card (nVidia 6800Ultra) runs to around 50C idle.

    I believe most processors are fine up to well over 100C, so I'm not worrying (though the heat output of a dual 64bit system into a small room can provide welcome space-heating in winter; in summer it's a nuisance though!)

    John

    PS. These are temps based on typical usage.
     
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    As someone who works in IT, I can say that there are just as many problems with Intel as there are with AMD.

    I run AMD at home, and it has been FLAWLESS for many years.

    A friend runs an Intel system and he's had loads of problems.

    Neither is better than the other in the case of a well chosen system.
     
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    Temperatures reported for both board and cpu are well within tolerances for those chips. Alarm would be 60.

    Main causes of problems are the useless heatsinks (and poor fitting of heatsinks) fitted to many systems these days with insufficient surface area contact for heat transfer.
     
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