Cycling: shifting systems?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by I-S, Sep 14, 2005.

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Which shifters?

  1. SRAM Gripshift

    19.0%
  2. SRAM Trigger

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Shimano Rapidfire

    42.9%
  4. Shimano thumbies

    19.0%
  5. Friction shifters

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  6. Other (eg Rohloff, shimano dualcontrol)

    9.5%
  7. Combo

    9.5%
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    rsand I can't feel my toes

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    Full XT, I have never used GS or other brands on MTB's but shimano has always performed flawlessly for me so i've never been tempted to looked elsewhere.
     
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    andi

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    Got Chorus Ergo's on the road bike and XT thumb shifters on the MTB
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    SteveC PrimaLuna is not cheese

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    Voted for Rapidfire but on my recumbents bar-end shifters can't be beat, Ultegra preferably
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    since were talking about drivetrains, can I plug my favourite new product?

    Finesse grease buster -

    http://www.wadescycles.co.uk/shop/a...ers&Desc=FINESSE+GREASE+BUSTER+-+500ml&Brand=

    3.99 from wiggle with foc postage.

    I like to think of it as a combination of a degreaser and a jet hose.

    clean your drivetrain with soapy water, and then blast it at 200mph with this jet powered aerosol degreaser, then wipe with a cloth.

    Best degreaser Ive used yet.

    Cheers
    Chris
     
    bottleneck, Sep 14, 2005
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    domfjbrown live & breathe psy-trance

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    Dumb question, but once that's done, do you still have to put 3in1 or what-have-you on it? My drivetrain could do with a clean ;)
     
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    leonard smalls GufmeisterGeneral

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    Just out of interest, does it say it shouldn't be used anywhere near bearings, especially non-sealed ones? Nowt worse than degreasing them!
    I clean my chain with something like THIS, and clean my cassette and front chain rings with a toothbrush covered with GT85 or WD40.. I take the jockey wheels apart every 6 months or so and give them a scrub too...
    And as for 3-in-1, only use it if you like collecting mud.
    I use GT85 for all lubing - mainly cos it's £1.99 from a cheapo car parts shop (and at least £2.99 in bike shops!). Good lightweight silicone lube that doesn't pick up dirt..

    I shall have to clean my MTB urgently, as I went down the downhill for next weeks MSS race (http://www.pearcecycles.co.uk/Racing/MSSRound5RiderInfo.doc) yesterday - very scary indeed with steep muddy switchbacks, and unexpected 10 foot vertical drops! My dogs managed it quicker than I could!
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    my my my that sounds like a lot of hard work and effort - a quick spritz with a degreaser, sluce with water and dash of lube and mine's fighting fit. that's when i can be arsed to do it that is.
    anyone tried the waxy 'dry' lubes?
    cheers


    julian.
     
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    ditton happy old soul

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    timely thread. I've SRAM grip-shift on my day bike. I am considering updating a Le Jeune tandem which currently has front drops with changer on the frame - and I now want to be more upright than I was in my yoof. So new front bar and all for me.

    (I'l keep the old stuff in case someone wants to own a classic - which it was/is.)
     
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    I-S Good Evening.... Infidel

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    GT85 is a fine lube in summer. It's not up to winter riding though, so I use finish line teflon chain lube for drivetrain. This is a "waxy" dry lube and it works very well.
     
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    leonard smalls GufmeisterGeneral

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    I use GT85 summer and winter - I just have to clean the bike more often in winter!
    But then I'm mean.
     
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    Neville

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    I have SRAM X0 gripshift on my titanium hardtail mtb, and X9 triggers on my full sus. Very pleased with SRAM, the X0 rear mechs are fantastic, and the 1:1 pull ratio makes them less prone to the indexing going out.
     
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    I-S Good Evening.... Infidel

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    I'd like an X.0 mech.... but at that price they should be fantastic! Makes XTR look cheap...
     
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    garyi Wish I had a Large Member

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    I could never get on with grip shifts, I must admit though this was some 10 years ago. You had to wear gloves otherwise when sweating you couldn't turn the grip and yes I frequently changed gear without wanting too, most annoying.

    Anyway this has put me off them, I have the ones with a thumb below and one above, I find this is generally the best for me. I remember however I have another bike at my parents that I could scab some gear off.

    In all my years on earth I have not had one piece of Shimano gear go wrong, from the very first Releigh Mustang (I believe they first came out with the whit/red/black frame then the next one was the purply number) to XT gearing I had on a Kurt Manetou frame.

    My mountain bike has LX on it, but I must say it seems to have gone Bling Bling really big and out there, don't get me wrong it works faultlessly, but still seems a but ugly. My old bike has the older LX gearing, do you think that would pass over OK?
     
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    garyi Wish I had a Large Member

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    I really want to get on my bike now!
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    gary the grip shift on mine has a slightly triangular profile so it's easy to grip even when sweating like betty. i seem to remember grifter grip shifts being the whole grip rather than just a subby part was this the case on the one's you didn;t like 10 years ago? i'm slowly getting to grips with the grip shift on mine now however the clipless pedals are a different story - fell off again today when trying to stop to talk to someone, silly thing is i knew i was going to fall off about 5 seconds before i did - if i'd just kept pedaling to keep my speed up while i unclipped my other foot i'd have been ok. soft eejit that i am.
    cheers


    julian.
     
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    lhatkins Dazed and Confused

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    I want gear shifter like my old Chopper, but they've banned them, :( bloody H&S spoil sports! They rocked!
    I don't think I'd even attemped clipless pedals, I would not be confident enough with them, I'll stick with the clips.
     
    lhatkins, Sep 16, 2005
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    domfjbrown live & breathe psy-trance

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    Choppers rule! You never told me you had one back in the day! Did you know GTA San Andreas has Choppers? I had one in my garage until I broke the game yesterday trying to update it with that new patch - well I guess it DOES fix bugs if it stops the game working totally - grrrrrr!

    I know you get better efficiency, but the whole concept of locking myself into my pedals puts me off - in your recent experience, would you have been hurt more if you'd stayed locked to your bike???
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    in most speed falls there's enough force to 'unclip' you - you're only held in by springs after all it's low speed wobbles and stops that get you so learning to use them is perilous. both times i've come a cropper it's been down to loss of concentration at low speeds - either talking or trying to do too many unfamiliar things at once, was realy paranoid about unclipping this morning though so no accidents today.
     
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    lhatkins Dazed and Confused

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    oh ya I had a chopper back when I was about 11-12 ish, great bike, loads of fun, the new one bares not resembalance to the original, the H&S Lobby have been let loose on it, waste of time. I mean if your going to injure youself on a bike there are plenty of objects to inflict injury, cross bar, handle bar, pedals, hell why don't they just ban bikes all together, I mean there obvioulsy far too dangerous, but now if they could make pavements out of rubber now that would be a good thing :lol:

    I don't know dom, I don't think it would have made much differece, but I think it would be a problem, like Julian says, in low speed accidents, I wouldn't feel comfortable using them.
     
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    Neville

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    Isaac, if you buy via the US then they're not that bad - Jenson USA charge about £60, compared to £150 list in the UK, or about £120 mail order discount shops.
     
    Neville, Sep 16, 2005
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