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Believe it or not, Julian, there are many people in the UK who believe that the BBC is an unbiased organisation with no axe to grind.

Last Night's BBC News
Stop the BBC Bias Campaign
BBC Watch
BeebWatch
Global Britain's BBC Bias Page

etc., etc., etc...

 

Yes indeed.

Americans are cowards. They only attack weak and poor nations. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq. Has anyone noticed how they back off from trade wars with the EC?

Fundamentals are such that, right now, US need rest of the world than rest of the world needs US. EC and other countries still have the economic muscle to bring US into line. Time to act is here and now. Clip the wings of this evil and hungry eagle. Putting effective pressure on US to ratifying the Kyoto protocol will be a good starting point.

 

Yeah, sure!

And how dare those fu*k*ng Americans decide who should be the members of the new govt in Iraq?

 

I said that as i thought it sounded more dramatic, you picked up on it and quoted me so my plan obviously worked. OK then, my legal right to vote. You win , anything for an easy life .

 

Another excellent point - that's twice I've found myself in agreement with you today.

Matt.

 

Couldn't agree with you more.
Our leader is in bed with that god damn son of a Bush but we as consumers still have some power.

 

OMG - lets hope that never happens.

I really don't think we can complain over here in the UK, after all didn't we re-elect a Euro Obsessed Maniac who seems hell bent on giving up every thing to the Euro Gravy Train?

Another vote for Blair is a vote for the Euro Jack Boot.

No Thanks - I'd rather become another state of America.

 

Why are you disturbed by people being right wing? I'm proud to fit that description but, extreme right wing groups aside, I can't see how subscribing to the Conservative ideology of small, non-interfering government and low taxation (i.e. let the people keep more of their money so that THEY can best decide how to spend it) should disturb anyone.

What I personally find disturbing on the left side is not the traditional old Labour lot, it's the New Labour bunch who have done very well out of the capitalist system, often own several properties and substantial share portfolios, send their kids to selective schools etc, etc, but then preach to the electorate that no-one should own more than one house and that the comprehensive education system is all anyone needs. In other words - do as I say not as I do - bloody hypocrites!

Not suggesting for a minute that you fall into this well-to-do, preach-what-you-don't-practice brigade Michael but I do wonder how your polictically incorrect (high emissions/poor economy) M3 fits in with your environmental and social conscience.

Matt.

 

Cold war period was bad but the unilateralism is a greater danger to our existence more than ever before.

Hope for the future is not siding with the evil that is US.
Our real allies are in the EC not in the US.

 

We'd better not go there, Matt. That way leads to disaster. I can just see hoards of torch-carrying forum members burning and looting the houses of anyone who owns an energy-inefficient class 'A' amplifier.

 

Matt,

Isn't that rather at odds with the Republicans' rather forthright policies on stem cell research, abortion, foreign affairs etc etc.....

 

Does anyone really think that US have a democratic govt?
A govt. OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE and FOR THE PEOPLE?
As declared by the Founding Fathers?

Democracy in US got basterdised by the corporates, freedom of thought controlled by the media and it has a president who is a puppet of the oil tycoons that put him in place.

 

Because it's usually a pretext for the rich and powerful to stomp all over the poor and weak. What happens if you don't have the money to choose your own health insurance? You go without, I guess, just as 40 million Americans do.

 

Absolutely right.

In fact, if it wasn't for the evil US, we EC members would be far closer than we are today, albeit German speaking, jackboot wearing and probably calling the US a load of *****-footing lefties.

 

Jeesus - We would be listening to oompah bands too!

Thank you USA for all you have done - I guess we owe you a favour or two.

 

In other words, you are implying that I do fall into that "do as I say, not as I do" brigade

As for the M3, I do about 2-3000 miles a year in it, 90% of those being non-urban miles. I'm putting out far fewer emissions over a year than the average car user.

And they'd be correct. However, the truth always appears biased to those who are hurt by it.

Michael.

 

There's a lot of racism being displayed on this thread. But I guess that's OK if it's just dumb old Americans you hate.

Matt forgot about Michael's two-dwelling-international-commute lifestyle not to mention the working for a bank...

Paul

 

I meant our Conservative party, not theirs and, for what it's worth, I'd make being an atheist a compulsory condition of running for President, Prime Minister or World Leader.

Actually, what is scary is that if a US presidential candidate admitted to being an athiest, he or she wouldn't stand a bloody chance.

Matt.

 

US is self glorifying about WW2 but it is enough to cause annoyance to many Europeans against the US over it's own opinion on it's activities during WW2. America's late arrival in the war is not something they should boast about.

In the film Saving Private Ryan (based on a true story of a British expedition to rescue British prisoners), where an all-American ground force takes on Germany; whereas America sent very few soldiers into war. America only began to send men into the war against Japan after Pearl Harbour, and the numbers and aid that America put into the world are pale in comparison to the massive war efforts conducted by Russia (who crushed Germany with 20 millions of ground troops), France (for it's bitter, endless and determined self defence) and the UK. The UK's air force and special forces were consistently very brave and effective (even though some of ground invasions of Germen held territory were ludicrously ill fated).
America did supply vast amounts of material goods, but it did not commit, or it's soldiers, into combat wholeheartedly. America's most consistent aid was against the Japanese, and not until Japan attacked America directly, and even then America eventually resorted to the massively indiscriminate nuclear bombs rather than "waste" men on resolute Japan.
America appears to be very self-glorifying, and there are multiple generations in the UK, France and Europe who upset and angry with America's rewriting of history. Russia's men, France's entire population, and UK's air force, were the principal opponents of Germany, aided by American equipment, for which we are grateful, but it annoys some people (it used to annoy me, as you can tell, until I sold my soul) enough that I consider it a reason, related to patriotism, that people hate the USA.

 

Meanwhile, and remember you read it here first, could the next President of the USA be a woman?

It would appear that Hilary Clinton has much to gain by Bush's victory. She's now free to win the Democratic nomination and fight for president in 2008.

Meanwhile, Dick Cheney, who has no major political ambitions and has had 4 heart attacks, could step down as vice president, leaving Condoleezza Rice, the National Security Adviser as one of the main contenders for the job.

So, 2008, Rice v Clinton (Mrs.). Should we start the thread now?