Looks like Bush

dont even start me on the u boat movie they made!

As much as they were late - you cant tell me we would have won without them?

 

Really? Where? Strictly speaking, Americans aren't a race but a national people, and an extremely diverse one at that, which resists pigeonholing. Somebody mentioned a Welsh windbag, though.

What's that got to do with anybody's political beliefs? There are many council-flat-dwelling, unemployed people who feel the Tory party reflects their opinions best. Go figure.

Condoleeza versus Hilary? Wouldn't that be something.

 

So, let me see, because I have left wing views, ie I care about others, I should divest myself of all my posessions and go and live in a monastery, coming out only at weekends to help out at the soup kitchen for the homeless...

This idea that you can't be both wealthy and a socialist is quite absurd. Equally as absurd as saying that you can't be poor and/or working class and a capitalist.

Michael.

 

I was poor and hated the tories (during the maggie yrs)
Im now fabulously wealthy beyond my dreams and still hate the tories.

 

Naah......Still reckon Arnie v Hilary

 

Good for you.

 

Arnie can't run, since he wasn't born in the US. However, a small change to the consitution would be all it takes, and as the Republicans have shown themselves extraordinarily adept at doing whatever it takes to hold on to power I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this happen between now and 2008.

Remember that joke in Demolition Man? President Schwarzennegger? Who's laughing now?

 

Or right wing and care about others.

 

I'm right handed and two-winged, if thats any use to anyone.

 

We all seem to have differing views so lets all start at USA-101.

I for one would like to see this in full colour, should we take subscriptions and start a web site now?

 

Being German, I should probably stay out of this, but in my view, Germany had no chance to win either WW even without the intervention of the US. I firmly believe that wars are ultimately won by resources, both human and material, and that Germany and its allies were always going to be hopelessly outgunned and outnumbered by the opposition.

 

No. no. you have it all wrong. It's GOOD that Bush gets re-elected !!

If he carries on with the same domestic economic policy that he has been following for the last 4 years, by the end of his term the USA will no longer be the economic superpower it is now. They certainly aren't the military superpower they used to be. It's just over a year in Iraq and he's been calling up reservists for months, and it's not even a full blown war !! Just a buch of rebels causing minor irritation. !!

IMHO, the sooner that the world looses the USA as it's economic dictator the better. The world is never a better place with one country in such a position of economic superiority that it can strong arm other countries to run their economic policies in a way that suits it.


GTM

 

If any one country can be said to have done the most to defeat the Nazis, it was Russia.

-- Ian

 

But the next one will be China, and I'm not sure that will actually improve things.

 

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The manner in which you have worded that statement suggests that only people who's political views are left of centre care about others. I know and have met plenty of lefties who quite obviously don't give a sh!t about other people, or their views. Being a lefty doesn't automatically mean that a person cares about others, in the same way that somebody who has more right wing views doesn't care about others.. kinda

Also just because somebody dislikes Blair and his band of liars and are more likely to vote Tory at the next general election doesn't mean that they are Ultra right wing active members of the BNP or National Front.

Moderation in everything is the key to global peace i think. If Kerry does/did get in the Extreme Terrorists that are skulking and stalking around our world at the moment will still carry on killing innocent people. Extreme Religeous beliefs are far more dangerous than extreme political beliefs.

The really sad part of all this is that none of the major( or Minor) worldwide religions support violence of any kind, they all claim to have a 'love thy neighbour' type of message, unfortunately this message is lost on the extremists.

 

Well, IMO, it's got a lot to do with it when you get people like Michael Meacher saying that no-one should be allowed to own more than one house, conveniently forgetting that he and his wife own a number of properties between them. You then had the late Donald Dewar - for many years against the common man owning shares - whose estate contained some huge shareholdings. John (M4 bus lane) Prescott, being driven the 100 yards or so from the Hotel to the Conference Centre.

Of course you can be a socialist and have money but preaching solialist principles and then sending your kids to private schools kind of goes against the grain a bit to me.

Matt.

 

I don't recall Michael saying he was against anybody owning more than one property. Perhaps he should come clean and state his position once and for all, and damn his eyes if it's the wrong answer.

Couldn't agree with you more. Get rid of private schooling all together, I say. The state system would soon improve. That's the idealist in me speaking. However, if my little boy won a scholarship to nearby Dulwich College (I couldn't even dream of paying the fees), I'd have to stop and think twice. That's the realist in me speaking.

 

This is good stuff, nothing like a good ol' political carve up to show ones true colours, Mind you haven't seen a lot of Political tolerence here, but hey you mortals have always got to disagree about some old shit, might as well be the 'Leaders' that run the place
Any Physcology students in the house ?

 

Agreed. They certainly lost a lot in the process.

 

Just for the record, I also don't like Tony Blair and his government (after all, I'm left wing so why would I support a centre-right government?) and Matt F, you're quite right that there are many hypocrites in the current government, but then there were just as many, if not more, in the previous Tory governments.

Why? I could understand that if someone was in favour of the abolition of private schools but few people are. Even if someone was against private schools in principle I don't see a contradiction in them sending their kids to one. You have to be a realist and give your child the best education they can in the current circumstances. If that happens to be a private school, then so be it. Doing so is not in conflict with striving to improve state schools to a point where private schools become largely irrelevant.

Michael.